All Blacks vs Tonga

Chris B.

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

Who was our last NZ European regular left winger?

So excluding Scott Hamilton’s lone test...?

Kirwan ?

Right.

Craig Green?

Terry Wright was after him wasn’t he?

Ben Smith.

Nepia

@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

Who was our last NZ European regular left winger?

So excluding Scott Hamilton’s lone test...?

Kirwan ?

Right.

Craig Green?

Terry Wright was after him wasn’t he?

Ben Smith.

"Left"

Sneakdefreak

Tonga may be losing this game 92-0 but they definitely win the "most impressive beard" competition.

nzzp

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

Nepia

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

kiwiinmelb

Good to see a ref make a good decision

Stargazer

The right decision and good to offer a clear explanation to the captains.

Higgins

@Nepia Accidental or not it is still dangerous play.

antipodean

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

Damo

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardiner might be the current ref with the best feel for the game.

Stargazer

@Higgins It was dangerous, but I doubt it qualifies as 'play' if you trip over another player.

Nepia

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

Donsteppa

I think it’ll be good for Josh Ioane to serve his apprenticeship for just a little bit longer. His time in the black jersey will certainly come though.

Stargazer

Damn, donut gone.

Sneakdefreak

START THE PARADE IN NUKU 'ALOFA! TONGA SCORE!!!!

nzzp

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

I disagree with Marshall. For me, that's still a penalty and possibly yellow card - the precedent was that bloke who slipped while taking off a year or two back and still copped it. I think the Tongans were right.

Not a red, but I don't think it was a scrum either for that matter

No Quarter

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

I think it’ll be good for Josh Ioane to serve his apprenticeship for just a little bit longer. His time in the black jersey will certainly come though.

He’s nowhere near ready for a RWC knock out game

antipodean

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

Nepia

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

What should JB be penalised for?

kiwiinmelb

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

What should JB be penalised for?

Being a doofus ?

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Tonga