All Blacks vs Tonga

Nepia

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

Who was our last NZ European regular left winger?

So excluding Scott Hamilton’s lone test...?

Kirwan ?

Right.

Craig Green?

Terry Wright was after him wasn’t he?

Ben Smith.

"Left"

Sneakdefreak

Tonga may be losing this game 92-0 but they definitely win the "most impressive beard" competition.

nzzp

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

Nepia

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

kiwiinmelb

Good to see a ref make a good decision

Stargazer

The right decision and good to offer a clear explanation to the captains.

Higgins

@Nepia Accidental or not it is still dangerous play.

antipodean

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

Damo

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardiner might be the current ref with the best feel for the game.

Stargazer

@Higgins It was dangerous, but I doubt it qualifies as 'play' if you trip over another player.

Nepia

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

Donsteppa

I think it’ll be good for Josh Ioane to serve his apprenticeship for just a little bit longer. His time in the black jersey will certainly come though.

Stargazer

Damn, donut gone.

Sneakdefreak

START THE PARADE IN NUKU 'ALOFA! TONGA SCORE!!!!

nzzp

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

I disagree with Marshall. For me, that's still a penalty and possibly yellow card - the precedent was that bloke who slipped while taking off a year or two back and still copped it. I think the Tongans were right.

Not a red, but I don't think it was a scrum either for that matter

No Quarter

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

I think it’ll be good for Josh Ioane to serve his apprenticeship for just a little bit longer. His time in the black jersey will certainly come though.

He’s nowhere near ready for a RWC knock out game

antipodean

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

Nepia

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

What should JB be penalised for?

kiwiinmelb

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

That's not a YC ffs

I think it probably is from the end on shot - but for the game he should have sent two ABs off as well.

Terrible call -- he was pulling out and put a hand out to soften the impact. Just in no way a yellow.

Referees are going to cost some teams at this cup, and it's going to suck.

He hit him with the shoulder even while pulling out. I don't disagree that refs will cost teams but by the letter of the law it's yellow.

Probably - I'd argue little force and pulling out - but to me shows how refs don't seem to have 'feel' for the game any more. I don't think that's the sort of tackle that was intended to be carded, no matter how the laws are written.

I think Gardner does and this decision just now shows that.

Disagree - if not a card it's a clear penalty.

You've changed your tune - in the Tongan one the Tongan player lead with a shoulder, all his fault, in this one JB tripped over another player.

I haven't changed my tune at all and all you've done is offer a biased description of both incidents.

If you read what I actually wrote I said both are penalties.

What should JB be penalised for?

Being a doofus ?

No Quarter

Well we held our shape for longer than expected given how poor the Tongans have been. Seemed to take out foot off the peddle with the Lousi YC, and then obviously giving Crotty his marching orders.

Not really sure what we can take out of this game other than a bit of a hit out between Bled 2 and the SA game.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Tonga