RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)

[jegga]

[Frank]

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

Was on the ITV coverage.

He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

Excellent.

A quarter final exit is an Irish tradition isn’t it?

Planet Rugby’s Ireland fans are still delivering gold

“We knew all of this in advance.
That’s why Joe player what he felt was his best team.

In cooler weather, better ref, neutral location both teams given the same amount of rest and our B team puts 40 points on them.

Do we really think that Japan making the quarters wasn’t just what WR wanted?

At this rate Japan might make the semis or better.

Reminds me of Korea/Japan WC in the football.”

Also a whole thread about how bent Gardner is

http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91481&sid=5594db999ca625c55956a0becc14a9dc

I don’t remember bok fans being this graceless at all and their team came back and gave ours a hell of a game in the semis.
I hope Heneke Meyer had a smile on his face last night .
The only downside for Japan is no one in their pool is going to take them lightly so they’ll be playing their top side if possible.

As a neutralish observer (I was obviously backing Japan) I didn't notice any obvious issues with the officiating. Did anyone? (Haven't read the thread.)

What are their specific whinge? Or is it just victim mentality?

Some of them have been saying Japan had an advantage because they play in the super rugby comp and are more used to the way Gardner refs .

Victim mentality, delusions of grandeur or just ungracious arseclowns? Take your pick

I'm beginning to think you only like rugby because you love sticking the boot in. (and there's nothing wrong with that )

[jegga]

@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

Was on the ITV coverage.

He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

Excellent.

A quarter final exit is an Irish tradition isn’t it?

Planet Rugby’s Ireland fans are still delivering gold

“We knew all of this in advance.
That’s why Joe player what he felt was his best team.

In cooler weather, better ref, neutral location both teams given the same amount of rest and our B team puts 40 points on them.

Do we really think that Japan making the quarters wasn’t just what WR wanted?

At this rate Japan might make the semis or better.

Reminds me of Korea/Japan WC in the football.”

Also a whole thread about how bent Gardner is

http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91481&sid=5594db999ca625c55956a0becc14a9dc

I don’t remember bok fans being this graceless at all and their team came back and gave ours a hell of a game in the semis.
I hope Heneke Meyer had a smile on his face last night .
The only downside for Japan is no one in their pool is going to take them lightly so they’ll be playing their top side if possible.

As a neutralish observer (I was obviously backing Japan) I didn't notice any obvious issues with the officiating. Did anyone? (Haven't read the thread.)

What are their specific whinge? Or is it just victim mentality?

Some of them have been saying Japan had an advantage because they play in the super rugby comp and are more used to the way Gardner refs .

Victim mentality, delusions of grandeur or just ungracious arseclowns? Take your pick

I'm beginning to think you only like rugby because you love sticking the boot in to Ireland....and Australia . (and there's nothing wrong with that )

I edited that to make more sense.

[taniwharugby]

@rotated no chance the ABs have prepared for the Irish though is there.

[Frank]

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

Was on the ITV coverage.

He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

Excellent.

A quarter final exit is an Irish tradition isn’t it?

Planet Rugby’s Ireland fans are still delivering gold

“We knew all of this in advance.
That’s why Joe player what he felt was his best team.

In cooler weather, better ref, neutral location both teams given the same amount of rest and our B team puts 40 points on them.

Do we really think that Japan making the quarters wasn’t just what WR wanted?

At this rate Japan might make the semis or better.

Reminds me of Korea/Japan WC in the football.”

Also a whole thread about how bent Gardner is

http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91481&sid=5594db999ca625c55956a0becc14a9dc

I don’t remember bok fans being this graceless at all and their team came back and gave ours a hell of a game in the semis.
I hope Heneke Meyer had a smile on his face last night .
The only downside for Japan is no one in their pool is going to take them lightly so they’ll be playing their top side if possible.

As a neutralish observer (I was obviously backing Japan) I didn't notice any obvious issues with the officiating. Did anyone? (Haven't read the thread.)

What are their specific whinge? Or is it just victim mentality?

Some of them have been saying Japan had an advantage because they play in the super rugby comp and are more used to the way Gardner refs .

Victim mentality, delusions of grandeur or just ungracious arseclowns? Take your pick

I'm beginning to think you only like rugby because you love sticking the boot in to Ireland....and Australia . (and there's nothing wrong with that )

I edited that to make more sense.

I'm disappointed you left out England.

[Paekakboyz]

@rotated I reckon we are further down the line with our new pod play (cheers 1014 for analysis).
We've kept advancing the dual pivot approach in spite of losing DMac. While losing him sucked I actually think it's got more bite as we now have two first choice 1st fives on the pitch. RM is making every post a winner and BB at the back is lethal.
Add in our clear shift to a more up tempo and ball playing front row, plus our flying loose trio and it all starts to feed off each other.
I guess aside from the pod structure and any yet to be seen tactics it's more personal tweaks. But to me it does feel different to last year.
Screw 11, Shag wants our lads to crank it to 20!
.

[Kirwan]

To me, where Ireland were at in the game was summed up by how they finished the game. Time was up, a converted try needed to draw the game, so they kicked it out.

Reminded me of Leon McDonald forcing the ball under similar circumstances. At least have a go!

[booboo]

More gold from our haka hating Irish kickball guy.

Is he the Ratpoo of Ireland?

https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1177607719622184961?s=19

[NTA]

@Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

To me, where Ireland were at in the game was summed up by how they finished the game. Time was up, a converted try needed to draw the game, so they kicked it out.

Reminded me of Leon McDonald forcing the ball under similar circumstances. At least have a go!

Given they had (what might be) a crucial bonus point, and at no point in the second half looked like breaking the line, I'm surprised he kicked it downfield instead of just dead.

The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

"Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

[taniwharugby]

@NTA interestingly tackle stats are prety similar, I thought Japan woulda been way ahead.

Ireland made 171 missed 18
Japan made 176 missed 14

Top individual was Moore (Jap) with 24 made, 0 missed, next was Flier (Ire) with 20 made, 1 missed.

https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/match/japan-ireland#stats

[Kirwan]

@NTA fair point about the bonus point. But the mentality was glaring to me, no ideas how to burgle even a draw.

It’s where Oz, NZ and SA are streets ahead IMO.

[Frank]

Schmidt is on to "Hometown."

Ireland are usually the most disciplined team on the pitch but they came out on the wrong end of a 9-6 penalty count, with Schmidt hinting at some frustrations at referee Angus Gardner – who the Ireland head coach had curiously decided to criticise as recently as Thursday.

“We’ll go back and have a look at it,” said Schmidt. “I certainly understand the frustrations of some of the players and in discussing things with them based on what I saw on the monitor, it’s not too dissimilar from the last time we had this referee.

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-japan-schmidt-4828766-Sep2019/

[Frank]

Ireland, in pursuit of top spot and bonus points, might be forced to play their top side more than they'd like in the next couple of games. Nice.

[MrDenmore]

@booboo He’s ‘branding’ himself, admittedly as a clueless, ignorant and offensive arsehole but that’s the ‘brand’

[Chris B.]

@NTA said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

"Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Saitama/Kumagaya/hour_by_hour.html

Don't know what the weather was yesterday, but if it's like today it was probably something like 28"C when that game kicked off. I recall the Sunwolves embarrassing the Blues in the heat a couple of years ago (and the Chiefs knocking over the Crusaders in Fiji).

If we play Ireland in a QF we'll be three weeks further into autumn and the kick-off is three hours later. Heat and humidity less of a factor.

[NTA]

@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

Schmidt is on to "Hometown."

Ireland are usually the most disciplined team on the pitch but they came out on the wrong end of a 9-6 penalty count, with Schmidt hinting at some frustrations at referee Angus Gardner – who the Ireland head coach had curiously decided to criticise as recently as Thursday.

“We’ll go back and have a look at it,” said Schmidt. “I certainly understand the frustrations of some of the players and in discussing things with them based on what I saw on the monitor, it’s not too dissimilar from the last time we had this referee.

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-japan-schmidt-4828766-Sep2019/

"Our brand of cynical bullshit finally got called on us. It happened with this referee last time but we were too stupid/arrogant/complacent to understand and rectify this either in our preparation, or during the game"

[Rapido]

Both teams scored all their trys under penalty advantage , so true penalty count is Jap 8, Ire 10.

Ireland just weren't very disciplined yesterday, not that 10 infringements is a shocker or anything, at one point Murray offended 3 times for a single penalty (2 advantages and then the final action when ref blew was him offending again).

[KiwiMurph]

@booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

More gold from our haka hating Irish kickball guy.

Is he the Ratpoo of Ireland?

https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1177607719622184961?s=19

It gets better.

Yes this guy is a certified twat. The Irish Twattue.

Thankfully people screenshot his deleted tweets.

[booboo]

@MrDenmore said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@booboo He’s ‘branding’ himself, admittedly as a clueless, ignorant and offensive arsehole but that’s the ‘brand’

So yes, the Irish Ratpoo. Best to ignore. Check.

[Crucial]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but Japan are now ranked above Scotland in the WR rankings.
(Ireland have plummeted to 4th).
Rankings starting to look more realistic now except SA are too low. They should be 3rd or 4th IMO