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RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)

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    @Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    To me, where Ireland were at in the game was summed up by how they finished the game. Time was up, a converted try needed to draw the game, so they kicked it out.

    Reminded me of Leon McDonald forcing the ball under similar circumstances. At least have a go!

    Given they had (what might be) a crucial bonus point, and at no point in the second half looked like breaking the line, I'm surprised he kicked it downfield instead of just dead.

    The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

    "Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

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    @NTA interestingly tackle stats are prety similar, I thought Japan woulda been way ahead.

    Ireland made 171 missed 18
    Japan made 176 missed 14

    Top individual was Moore (Jap) with 24 made, 0 missed, next was Flier (Ire) with 20 made, 1 missed.

    https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/match/japan-ireland#stats

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      @Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

      To me, where Ireland were at in the game was summed up by how they finished the game. Time was up, a converted try needed to draw the game, so they kicked it out.

      Reminded me of Leon McDonald forcing the ball under similar circumstances. At least have a go!

      Given they had (what might be) a crucial bonus point, and at no point in the second half looked like breaking the line, I'm surprised he kicked it downfield instead of just dead.

      The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

      "Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

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      @NTA fair point about the bonus point. But the mentality was glaring to me, no ideas how to burgle even a draw.

      It’s where Oz, NZ and SA are streets ahead IMO.

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        Schmidt is on to "Hometown."

        Ireland are usually the most disciplined team on the pitch but they came out on the wrong end of a 9-6 penalty count, with Schmidt hinting at some frustrations at referee Angus Gardner – who the Ireland head coach had curiously decided to criticise as recently as Thursday.

        “We’ll go back and have a look at it,” said Schmidt. “I certainly understand the frustrations of some of the players and in discussing things with them based on what I saw on the monitor, it’s not too dissimilar from the last time we had this referee.

        https://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-japan-schmidt-4828766-Sep2019/

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          Ireland, in pursuit of top spot and bonus points, might be forced to play their top side more than they'd like in the next couple of games. Nice.

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            More gold from our haka hating Irish kickball guy.

            Is he the Ratpoo of Ireland?

            https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1177607719622184961?s=19

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            @booboo He’s ‘branding’ himself, admittedly as a clueless, ignorant and offensive arsehole but that’s the ‘brand’

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              @Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              To me, where Ireland were at in the game was summed up by how they finished the game. Time was up, a converted try needed to draw the game, so they kicked it out.

              Reminded me of Leon McDonald forcing the ball under similar circumstances. At least have a go!

              Given they had (what might be) a crucial bonus point, and at no point in the second half looked like breaking the line, I'm surprised he kicked it downfield instead of just dead.

              The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

              "Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

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              @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              The lack of direction from the midfield was a problem. Ireland have been playing Sexton so long they've little else in the cupboard for 10. The kid who started was OK but the replacement was awful. By that stage, Ireland's forwards were shot. That big 5 that they've talked up so much was barely above walking pace going into contact, and easy meat for Japan's forwards.

              "Oh the feckin humidity!" some are saying - but when it rains in the British Isles teams are told to suck it up.

              https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Saitama/Kumagaya/hour_by_hour.html

              Don't know what the weather was yesterday, but if it's like today it was probably something like 28"C when that game kicked off. I recall the Sunwolves embarrassing the Blues in the heat a couple of years ago (and the Chiefs knocking over the Crusaders in Fiji).

              If we play Ireland in a QF we'll be three weeks further into autumn and the kick-off is three hours later. Heat and humidity less of a factor.

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              • FrankF Frank

                Schmidt is on to "Hometown."

                Ireland are usually the most disciplined team on the pitch but they came out on the wrong end of a 9-6 penalty count, with Schmidt hinting at some frustrations at referee Angus Gardner – who the Ireland head coach had curiously decided to criticise as recently as Thursday.

                “We’ll go back and have a look at it,” said Schmidt. “I certainly understand the frustrations of some of the players and in discussing things with them based on what I saw on the monitor, it’s not too dissimilar from the last time we had this referee.

                https://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-japan-schmidt-4828766-Sep2019/

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                @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                Schmidt is on to "Hometown."

                Ireland are usually the most disciplined team on the pitch but they came out on the wrong end of a 9-6 penalty count, with Schmidt hinting at some frustrations at referee Angus Gardner – who the Ireland head coach had curiously decided to criticise as recently as Thursday.

                “We’ll go back and have a look at it,” said Schmidt. “I certainly understand the frustrations of some of the players and in discussing things with them based on what I saw on the monitor, it’s not too dissimilar from the last time we had this referee.

                https://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-japan-schmidt-4828766-Sep2019/

                "Our brand of cynical bullshit finally got called on us. It happened with this referee last time but we were too stupid/arrogant/complacent to understand and rectify this either in our preparation, or during the game"

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                  Both teams scored all their trys under penalty advantage , so true penalty count is Jap 8, Ire 10.

                  Ireland just weren't very disciplined yesterday, not that 10 infringements is a shocker or anything, at one point Murray offended 3 times for a single penalty (2 advantages and then the final action when ref blew was him offending again).

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    More gold from our haka hating Irish kickball guy.

                    Is he the Ratpoo of Ireland?

                    https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1177607719622184961?s=19

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                    @booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    More gold from our haka hating Irish kickball guy.

                    Is he the Ratpoo of Ireland?

                    https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1177607719622184961?s=19

                    It gets better.

                    Yes this guy is a certified twat. The Irish Twattue.

                    Thankfully people screenshot his deleted tweets.

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                    • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                      @booboo He’s ‘branding’ himself, admittedly as a clueless, ignorant and offensive arsehole but that’s the ‘brand’

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                      @MrDenmore said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                      @booboo He’s ‘branding’ himself, admittedly as a clueless, ignorant and offensive arsehole but that’s the ‘brand’

                      So yes, the Irish Ratpoo. Best to ignore. Check.

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                        Not sure if this has been mentioned but Japan are now ranked above Scotland in the WR rankings.
                        (Ireland have plummeted to 4th).
                        Rankings starting to look more realistic now except SA are too low. They should be 3rd or 4th IMO

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          Not sure if this has been mentioned but Japan are now ranked above Scotland in the WR rankings.
                          (Ireland have plummeted to 4th).
                          Rankings starting to look more realistic now except SA are too low. They should be 3rd or 4th IMO

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                          @Crucial said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                          Rankings starting to look more realistic now except SA are too low. They should be 3rd or 4th IMO

                          SA should be second IMO.

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                            They're up and down like the Assyrian Empire during RWC, as games are worth double points

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                              They're up and down like the Assyrian Empire during RWC, as games are worth double points

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                              @Machpants said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              They're up and down like the Assyrian Empire during RWC, as games are worth double points

                              Surprisingly most moves are only by one place up or down.
                              It was the pre-tournament games in the NH where highly ranked teams played each other in 'friendlies' as preparation that put things out of alignment.
                              An Australian win against Wales would put the Convicts up to either 2nd or 3rd and drop Wales to 6th which is a big shuffle though.

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                                @Machpants said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                They're up and down like the Assyrian Empire during RWC, as games are worth double points

                                Surprisingly most moves are only by one place up or down.
                                It was the pre-tournament games in the NH where highly ranked teams played each other in 'friendlies' as preparation that put things out of alignment.
                                An Australian win against Wales would put the Convicts up to either 2nd or 3rd and drop Wales to 6th which is a big shuffle though.

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                                @Crucial said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                @Machpants said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                They're up and down like the Assyrian Empire during RWC, as games are worth double points

                                Surprisingly most moves are only by one place up or down.
                                It was the pre-tournament games in the NH where highly ranked teams played each other in 'friendlies' as preparation that put things out of alignment.
                                An Australian win against Wales would put the Convicts up to either 2nd or 3rd and drop Wales to 6th which is a big shuffle though.

                                Its tight in around 2-6 with only a tick over 3 points separating the lot. Beat someone above you and with double points....

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                                  One last gloating post before I move on, another post from an Irishman on pr

                                  Well, Japan chose this game to be played at the hottest time of the day in their most humid part of Japan because they understood very clearly it would give me an advantage against heavier opposition who all live and play in a temperate climate and who would not be able to fully acclimatize to the conditions. And they were right.

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                                    You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

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                                      You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

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                                      @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                      You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

                                      Nope, a lot of them signed up a fair while ago before the "golden era" though, so its not like all of them are recent blow ins . The ones that are the most graceless of them were the worst at gloating about the 2007 quarter final too. Karma is a nasty bitch.

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                                        @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

                                        Nope, a lot of them signed up a fair while ago before the "golden era" though, so its not like all of them are recent blow ins . The ones that are the most graceless of them were the worst at gloating about the 2007 quarter final too. Karma is a nasty bitch.

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                                        @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

                                        Nope, a lot of them signed up a fair while ago before the "golden era" though, so its not like all of them are recent blow ins . The ones that are the most graceless of them were the worst at gloating about the 2007 quarter final too. Karma is a nasty bitch.

                                        It takes a strange kind of an Irishman to troll another country's fans for losing a RWC quarter final.

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                                        • DamoD Damo

                                          @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

                                          Nope, a lot of them signed up a fair while ago before the "golden era" though, so its not like all of them are recent blow ins . The ones that are the most graceless of them were the worst at gloating about the 2007 quarter final too. Karma is a nasty bitch.

                                          It takes a strange kind of an Irishman to troll another country's fans for losing a RWC quarter final.

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                                          @Damo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          You wouldn't want to be a lifelong Irish rugby fan at the moment with all these dickhead countrymen posting would you?

                                          Nope, a lot of them signed up a fair while ago before the "golden era" though, so its not like all of them are recent blow ins . The ones that are the most graceless of them were the worst at gloating about the 2007 quarter final too. Karma is a nasty bitch.

                                          It takes a strange kind of an Irishman to troll another country's fans for losing a RWC quarter final.

                                          They are pretty unpopular over on pr, mostly for behaviour like that. They were appalling after that game

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