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  • JCJ JC

    @Bones said in Red cards:

    @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

    @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

    No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

    That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

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    BonesB Online
    Bones
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    #82

    @JC said in Red cards:

    @Bones said in Red cards:

    @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

    @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

    No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

    That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

    Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive.

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    • canefanC Away
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      canefan
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      #83

      I just happened to see highlights of that argie fella hitting Farrell. Did he get the red for a shoulder charge? Because his arms never even made contact with Farrell

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      • BonesB Bones

        @JC said in Red cards:

        @Bones said in Red cards:

        @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

        @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

        No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

        That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

        Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive.

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        JC
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        #84

        @Bones said in Red cards:

        @JC said in Red cards:

        @Bones said in Red cards:

        @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

        @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

        No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

        That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

        Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive.

        I’d apologise but I suspect you’d lose interest part way through.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @JC said in Red cards:

          @Bones said in Red cards:

          @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

          @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

          No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

          That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

          Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive.

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          Catogrande
          wrote on last edited by
          #85

          @Bones said in Red cards:

          @JC said in Red cards:

          @Bones said in Red cards:

          @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

          @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

          No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

          That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

          Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive. completely true.

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            @Bones said in Red cards:

            @JC said in Red cards:

            @Bones said in Red cards:

            @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

            @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

            No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

            That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

            Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive. completely true.

            BonesB Online
            BonesB Online
            Bones
            wrote on last edited by
            #86

            @Catogrande said in Red cards:

            @Bones said in Red cards:

            @JC said in Red cards:

            @Bones said in Red cards:

            @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

            @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

            No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

            That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

            Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive. completely true.

            40 is the new GFY.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Catogrande said in Red cards:

              @Bones said in Red cards:

              @JC said in Red cards:

              @Bones said in Red cards:

              @taniwharugby said in Red cards:

              @Bones they did try changing the rules a few years back didnt they (re mauls)

              No idea. I'm hardly going to go searching out any facts.

              That right there is the level of dedication we should all be striving for. All you younger fellas watch and learn from a pro.

              Steady on old man! The implication I'm no longer younger is deeply offensive. completely true.

              40 is the new GFY.

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              Catogrande
              wrote on last edited by
              #87

              @Bones I'm surprised you remember.

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              • canefanC canefan

                I just happened to see highlights of that argie fella hitting Farrell. Did he get the red for a shoulder charge? Because his arms never even made contact with Farrell

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                Catogrande
                wrote on last edited by
                #88

                @canefan Yeah, straight shoulder to the head.

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                • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                  ACT Crusader
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #89

                  Easy RC decision for the Cannuck’s shoulder to the head clean out.

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                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                    mariner4life
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                    #90

                    Ben Skeen is a fucking whiney little pissant fluffybunny who is the villain of this world cup

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                    • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                      ACT Crusader
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                      #91

                      Should we rename the thread title to

                      “When you want to rant about Skeen”

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                      • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                        #92

                        Said in a small-balled whine

                        "Ah, gerome, I just need to show you vision of this thing that happened right in front of you 5 minutes ago, but I found with 40 cameras and super slow mo.

                        Let's watch it for 3 minutes

                        I recommend a public hanging"

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Ben Skeen is a fucking whiney little pissant fluffybunny who is the villain of this world cup

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                          TeWaio
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                          #93

                          @mariner4life said in Red cards:

                          Ben Skeen is a fucking whiney little pissant fluffybunny who is the villain of this world cup

                          Second to Ben Stokes in the Most Hated NZer stakes

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                            ACT Crusader
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                            #94

                            Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

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                              voodoo
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                              #95

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Red cards:

                              Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

                              Barbarian has been quiet tonight....conspiracy much??

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Red cards:

                                Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

                                Barbarian has been quiet tonight....conspiracy much??

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                                NTA
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #96

                                @voodoo said in Red cards:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Red cards:

                                Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

                                Barbarian has been quiet tonight....conspiracy much??

                                I've met @barbarian and he's not that good looking

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @voodoo said in Red cards:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Red cards:

                                  Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

                                  Barbarian has been quiet tonight....conspiracy much??

                                  I've met @barbarian and he's not that good looking

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                                  voodoo
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                                  #97

                                  @NTA said in Red cards:

                                  @voodoo said in Red cards:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Red cards:

                                  Drew Mitchell reads the Fern

                                  Barbarian has been quiet tonight....conspiracy much??

                                  I've met @barbarian and he's not that good looking

                                  😅😅😅

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                                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                                    mariner4life
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #98

                                    Aussie panel feeding it to Skeen, absolutely giving it to him.

                                    And Owens should have got a red.

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                                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                        @Rembrandt said in Red cards:

                                        Genuine question for those pro the yellow cards on the kiwi props as my rugby career ended before my balls dropped.

                                        How does someone defend a try-line when an attacker is diving in leading with their head and you are camped on that line? (Or worse are a couple metres away and have to act fast)
                                        Maybe I'm not understanding the concept of 'swinging arm' but I would have thought that if you didn't use your arm and instead braced with your bodyweight that that could be classified as a no-arms tackle.

                                        I tried to do a youtube search for great prop tries..but the highlights are all just overweight outside backs

                                        Arms out in front of you. Take him onto your body, wrap man and ball and hold him up. Not so hard.

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                                        junior
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                                        #100

                                        @Billy-Webb said in Red cards:

                                        @Rembrandt said in Red cards:

                                        Genuine question for those pro the yellow cards on the kiwi props as my rugby career ended before my balls dropped.

                                        How does someone defend a try-line when an attacker is diving in leading with their head and you are camped on that line? (Or worse are a couple metres away and have to act fast)
                                        Maybe I'm not understanding the concept of 'swinging arm' but I would have thought that if you didn't use your arm and instead braced with your bodyweight that that could be classified as a no-arms tackle.

                                        I tried to do a youtube search for great prop tries..but the highlights are all just overweight outside backs

                                        Arms out in front of you. Take him onto your body, wrap man and ball and hold him up. Not so hard.

                                        This is fine if the attacking player is already lower than the defending player. But what about when he suddenly drops, like what happened min the cases of Nepo and Ofa?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          So if a team is unable to stop a driving maul legally and it's about to score, they should be allowed to collapse it right?

                                          If you can't win a lineout legally, you should be able to drag down the jumper or take out the lifter. It's not fair otherwise.

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                                          junior
                                          wrote on last edited by junior
                                          #101

                                          @Bones said in Red cards:

                                          So if a team is unable to stop a driving maul legally and it's about to score, they should be allowed to collapse it right?

                                          If you can't win a lineout legally, you should be able to drag down the jumper or take out the lifter. It's not fair otherwise.

                                          No, of course not - why are you being so obtuse on this issue?

                                          What people are complaining / confused about it that a defending player can do everything absolutely legally and then - at the very last moment - the attacking player drops his body height, thus creating an automatically illegal situation through no fault of the defending player.

                                          You say the defending player should stand up and cradle the attacking player - but what if the attacking player is also upright? You're then in Lavanini territory. So you have to start low, but then you end up in the situation we are complaining about.

                                          Me and other posters here have described in some detail the issue with (a) requiring tacklers to drop their body heights in the tackle, but then (b) penalising them when they've dropped so low that they inevitably make head / neck contact on an attacking player who drops even lower after the tackle has been initiated.

                                          However, for some reason which is not readily apparent, you and @MiketheSnow are taking a very obtuse and unhelpful approach to this issue, pretending it doesn't even exists and, in effect, saying that defenders should just let attacker score from close out.

                                          EDIT.

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