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RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A)

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

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    @Nepia cos of AB special treatment...

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      @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      You bet your arse they'd do something different if it was the abs, people actually want to watch them play.

      That is true, but he does realise that our match was cancelled right? Denying us a chance to get some players into a proper RWC "match" (I use that word in the broadest of terms).

      Really weird how how these bellends can turn everything into a comparison with the ABs (which they will lose). Aura I guess.

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      @Snowy @jegga I do wonder though that if it was say England or NZ that needed to play to qualify whether or not the outcome from World Rugby would have been different. I'd like to think not, but I'm not so sure. Now this is not a dig and either team, more taking a view on the commercial decision that World Rugby might have taken.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

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        @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

        Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

        Exactly same as all the head-games that coaches pull out before matches, to try and influence refs' thinking.
        Just trying to put that extra tiny bit of pressure on, to prod any 50/50 decision towards it being played.
        I'm being optimistic of course... Occam would argue the alternative that they are just complete fucktard whinging tosspots.

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          @Snowy @jegga I do wonder though that if it was say England or NZ that needed to play to qualify whether or not the outcome from World Rugby would have been different. I'd like to think not, but I'm not so sure. Now this is not a dig and either team, more taking a view on the commercial decision that World Rugby might have taken.

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          @Catogrande said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

          @Snowy @jegga I do wonder though that if it was say England or NZ that needed to play to qualify whether or not the outcome from World Rugby would have been different. I'd like to think not, but I'm not so sure. Now this is not a dig and either team, more taking a view on the commercial decision that World Rugby might have taken.

          We will never know so theres no need for the Italians or Scots to try and drag us into their public meltdowns over the cancellations.

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          • KruseK Kruse

            @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

            Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

            Exactly same as all the head-games that coaches pull out before matches, to try and influence refs' thinking.
            Just trying to put that extra tiny bit of pressure on, to prod any 50/50 decision towards it being played.
            I'm being optimistic of course... Occam would argue the alternative that they are just complete fucktard whinging tosspots.

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            @Kruse said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

            @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

            Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

            Exactly same as all the head-games that coaches pull out before matches, to try and influence refs' thinking.
            Just trying to put that extra tiny bit of pressure on, to prod any 50/50 decision towards it being played.
            I'm being optimistic of course... Occam would argue the alternative that they are just complete fucktard whinging tosspots.

            History would suggest they might be

            When we toured in 1905 the share of the gate takings was negotiated before the tour started and as it progressed the abs became a huge drawcard and the Scots wanted to try and redraw the contract and were told to fuck off.
            In 1925 the world had completely changed, Germany had collapsed after a global war , Russia had killed off its royal family and become communist , the middle east and europes borders had redrawn , the Ottoman empire had finally fallen and an entire generation had been decimated in the mud of the western front.
            The scots were still pissed about the gate takings in 1905 though and refused to play the abs.

            One of the more obnoxious rugby writers should pen a column pointing out they were only there to make up the numbers and they should know their place and stfu.

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            • jeggaJ jegga

              @Kruse said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

              @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

              Can someone enlighten me as to why Scotland are melting down before their game has even been officially cancelled?

              Exactly same as all the head-games that coaches pull out before matches, to try and influence refs' thinking.
              Just trying to put that extra tiny bit of pressure on, to prod any 50/50 decision towards it being played.
              I'm being optimistic of course... Occam would argue the alternative that they are just complete fucktard whinging tosspots.

              History would suggest they might be

              When we toured in 1905 the share of the gate takings was negotiated before the tour started and as it progressed the abs became a huge drawcard and the Scots wanted to try and redraw the contract and were told to fuck off.
              In 1925 the world had completely changed, Germany had collapsed after a global war , Russia had killed off its royal family and become communist , the middle east and europes borders had redrawn , the Ottoman empire had finally fallen and an entire generation had been decimated in the mud of the western front.
              The scots were still pissed about the gate takings in 1905 though and refused to play the abs.

              One of the more obnoxious rugby writers should pen a column pointing out they were only there to make up the numbers and they should know their place and stfu.

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              @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

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                @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

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                @sparky said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

                i wasn't there but the Scots were the more pathetic of the two imho.

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                • jeggaJ jegga

                  @sparky said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

                  i wasn't there but the Scots were the more pathetic of the two imho.

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                  @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @sparky said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

                  i wasn't there but the Scots were the more pathetic of the two imho.

                  At least the Welsh fronted up on the field. It's only cheating if you get caught right?

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

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                    @sparky said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

                    I still haven't forgiven the Welsh for that. My mum used to tell me that particular bit of history from day 1. As for the Scots, that little piece regarding the gate takings and the follow on on the 1924 tour continues to resonate in my disdain for Scottish administrators, be it for sport or finance.

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                      Want the scots to win for obvious reasons ,

                      But I would much rather support Japan , and not just because of the dramas,

                      Japan have been one of the few highlights of pool play so far for me , have enjoyed their approach to the game

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                      • jeggaJ jegga

                        @sparky said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                        @jegga Which was worse the Welsh cheating the Originals of their Grand Slam in 1905 by moving the ball over the line after Bob Deans scored or the Scots denying the 1924-5 Invincibles their Grand Slam by refusing to play them?

                        i wasn't there but the Scots were the more pathetic of the two imho.

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                        @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                        i wasn't there but the Scots were the more pathetic of the two imho.

                        Wales made up for it in the mid-00s though.

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                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                          Want the scots to win for obvious reasons ,

                          But I would much rather support Japan , and not just because of the dramas,

                          Japan have been one of the few highlights of pool play so far for me , have enjoyed their approach to the game

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                          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                          Want the scots to win for obvious reasons ,

                          But I would much rather support Japan , and not just because of the dramas,

                          Japan have been one of the few highlights of pool play so far for me , have enjoyed their approach to the game

                          If it's really wet then that will favour the Scots who will be doing everything they can to slow the game down

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                            The scots might need to score four tries though so a wet outfield might not be so helpful.

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                              Want the scots to win for obvious reasons ,

                              But I would much rather support Japan , and not just because of the dramas,

                              Japan have been one of the few highlights of pool play so far for me , have enjoyed their approach to the game

                              If it's really wet then that will favour the Scots who will be doing everything they can to slow the game down

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                              @No-Quarter said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                              @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                              Want the scots to win for obvious reasons ,

                              But I would much rather support Japan , and not just because of the dramas,

                              Japan have been one of the few highlights of pool play so far for me , have enjoyed their approach to the game

                              If it's really wet then that will favour the Scots who will be doing everything they can to slow the game down

                              Won't be raining. Cyclone's gone.

                              Will be a beautiful day weatherwise. Prob ably quite humid though.

                              It'll just be what damage lingers. Damage to stadium, damage to surrounding infrastructure, whether the flooding around the stadium prevents it's use etc.

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                                https://twitter.com/Tomsmitz9/status/1183156940677042176?s=20

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                                  It's on according to the BBC.

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                                    We need to cross live to our Japanese correspondent @gt12 for the latest updates on weather and damage from the Typhoon.

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                                      Seriously after this I hope Scottish rugby whithers up completely, this sort of whining surpasses even the Irish .

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116539877/rugby-world-cup-2019-scots-accuse-all-blacks-of-undue-influence-in-games-cancellation-decision

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                                        We havent had confirmation from here yet, they were inspecting the facilities.

                                        The Tsurumi river is back to orange (2nd of three stages) so shouldn’t need to be let out over the flood plains around the stadium, which is a good sign.

                                        Most private (ie, not JR) trains are also running and JR will start later.

                                        My bet is that it’s on, but if they have something badly damaged at the stadium, then....

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                                          We havent had confirmation from here yet, they were inspecting the facilities.

                                          The Tsurumi river is back to orange (2nd of three stages) so shouldn’t need to be let out over the flood plains around the stadium, which is a good sign.

                                          Most private (ie, not JR) trains are also running and JR will start later.

                                          My bet is that it’s on, but if they have something badly damaged at the stadium, then....

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                                          @gt12 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                          My bet is that it’s on, but if they have something badly damaged at the stadium, then....

                                          ...they'll play behind closed doors?

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