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RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A)

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    @Bovidae said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    Not sure what the currency exchange is like in Georgia but I'll bet the NZRFU gets more out of Murrayfield?

    IIRC there is no revenue sharing arrangement on the EOYTs. That has been the longstanding argument from Tew and co.

    Scotland aren't exactly a marquee game.

    I thought that was the case too . So they are effectively a complete waste of time and effort to the NZRU

    Yep. Those tractor parts are looking more attractive all the time. πŸ™‚

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    @Bovidae said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    @Bovidae said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

    Not sure what the currency exchange is like in Georgia but I'll bet the NZRFU gets more out of Murrayfield?

    IIRC there is no revenue sharing arrangement on the EOYTs. That has been the longstanding argument from Tew and co.

    Scotland aren't exactly a marquee game.

    I thought that was the case too . So they are effectively a complete waste of time and effort to the NZRU

    Yep. Those tractor parts are looking more attractive all the time. πŸ™‚

    Especially is they are Massey ferg parts

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      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

      Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

      That's pussy talk

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      #142

      @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

      @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

      Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

      That's pussy talk

      I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

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      • canefanC canefan

        @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

        @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

        @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

        @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

        Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

        That's pussy talk

        I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

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        @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

        They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

          They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

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          akan004
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          @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

          @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

          They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

          Long term forecast is for over 50 mm of rain. Don't want to be playing a team like Ireland on a day like that.

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            The number 1 key to beating Ireland is defensive discipline. Of which Samoa has zero in the first half. Make Ireland gain territory rather than handing it to them on a penalty platter.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

              They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

              @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

              They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

              I'd like to take the easier path to the big game, if we are good enough I'll take our chances against anybody in the final.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

                They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

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                @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                @canefan better to beat Ireland in the 1/4 than chance losing to them in the final πŸ˜‰

                They have the pressure of never getting past the next round, but if they built and made the final I reckon they'd be more dangerous.

                I take a different view - I reckon they'll play their final in a QF against. That's why they will be so dangerous and why I reckon they won't be able to get up again a week later and instead will bomb out.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                  Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                  That's pussy talk

                  I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

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                  @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                  @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                  @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                  Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                  That's pussy talk

                  I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                  And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                    Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                    That's pussy talk

                    I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                    And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

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                    #149

                    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                    @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                    @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                    Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                    That's pussy talk

                    I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                    And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                    Yeah, part of me hates myself. Best of luck vs England by the way

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                      @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                      @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                      Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                      That's pussy talk

                      I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                      And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                      Yeah, part of me hates myself. Best of luck vs England by the way

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                      @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                      @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                      @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                      @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                      @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                      Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                      That's pussy talk

                      I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                      And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                      Yeah, part of me hates myself. Best of luck vs England by the way

                      They won't need it.

                      But I would like to see Farrell given a red card 😎

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                        Good to see all the references to Tropic Thunder in the last few days. 🀣 πŸ‘

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                          I honestly dont care who we play along the way, want to be the best (again) have to beat the best.

                          I think squadwise, we are still well placed to go 3 tough games on the trot, England are probably in a similar position now too, and if I was worried about anyone right now, it'd be them, not sure other teams have the depth to have 3 tough ones.

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                            Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                            That's pussy talk

                            I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                            And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                            Yeah, part of me hates myself. Best of luck vs England by the way

                            They won't need it.

                            But I would like to see Farrell given a red card 😎

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                            @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                            @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                            @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                            Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                            That's pussy talk

                            I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                            And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                            Yeah, part of me hates myself. Best of luck vs England by the way

                            They won't need it.

                            But I would like to see Farrell given a red card 😎

                            I can't believe he's held out this long

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                              @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                              @akan004 Ok so that's the ruling...great...Come on Scotland..I nice win by 8 would do the trick.

                              Either Scotland or Japan in the quarter would be fine, preferably Japan for me.

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                              @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                              @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                              @akan004 Ok so that's the ruling...great...Come on Scotland..I nice win by 8 would do the trick.

                              Either Scotland or Japan in the quarter would be fine, preferably Japan for me.

                              Just my 2 cents worth, bring on Ireland.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                @akan004 Ok so that's the ruling...great...Come on Scotland..I nice win by 8 would do the trick.

                                Either Scotland or Japan in the quarter would be fine, preferably Japan for me.

                                Just my 2 cents worth, bring on Ireland.

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                                akan004
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                                @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                @akan004 Ok so that's the ruling...great...Come on Scotland..I nice win by 8 would do the trick.

                                Either Scotland or Japan in the quarter would be fine, preferably Japan for me.

                                Just my 2 cents worth, bring on Ireland.

                                Took your time.

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                                  @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                  @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                                  Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                                  That's pussy talk

                                  I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                                  And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

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                                  @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                  @canefan said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                  @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @Blackheart said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                  @akan004 neither team has beaten the ABs but I agree Japan would be a better choice...anything than those bloody Micks...they know how to beat us. 😞

                                  Yeah. Ireland will be very tough so best to avoid them. We should beat either Scotland or Japan comfortably enough.

                                  That's pussy talk

                                  I spent a lot of money to attend that game. As much as I'm confident we'd beat the paddies I would prefer not to chance it. Besides, a Japan/Scotland, England, SA path to the final would be more desirable

                                  And now I'm confused as to whether you're a pussy or just chicken

                                  I know that there's possibly a joke of some sort to be made here about being unable to differentiate between a pussy and a cock, but after passing on an earlier opportunity to caption the flooded tunnel footage from Japan's training session ("...so THAT's why that call it a pool game"). I no longer trust my judgment.

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                                    @Catogrande said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                    @Snowy @jegga I do wonder though that if it was say England or NZ that needed to play to qualify whether or not the outcome from World Rugby would have been different. I'd like to think not, but I'm not so sure. Now this is not a dig and either team, more taking a view on the commercial decision that World Rugby might have taken.

                                    It would have been exactly the same.

                                    Any NZ team that had been thrashed in a pool match before playing the unbeaten leader of the pool would be considered so useless that they got what they deserved. World Rugby would delight -- positively delight -- in stiffing us. Taking the ABs out early in any tournament would vastly increase the interest from the neutrals to each succeeding match, as everyone would think they could pull it off.

                                    And England have no Aura, so it isn't an issue.

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                                    @Chester-Draws said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Pool A):

                                    @Catogrande said in RWC: Japan v Scotland (Possible) (Pool A):

                                    @Snowy @jegga I do wonder though that if it was say England or NZ that needed to play to qualify whether or not the outcome from World Rugby would have been different. I'd like to think not, but I'm not so sure. Now this is not a dig and either team, more taking a view on the commercial decision that World Rugby might have taken.

                                    It would have been exactly the same.

                                    Any NZ team that had been thrashed in a pool match before playing the unbeaten leader of the pool would be considered so useless that they got what they deserved. World Rugby would delight -- positively with delight -- in stiffing us. Taking the ABs out early in any tournament would vastly increase the interest from the neutrals to each succeeding match, as everyone would think they could pull it off.

                                    And England have no Aura, so it isn't an issue.

                                    I guess you missed the bit saying it wasn’t a dig at either? πŸ™„

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                                      It’s a very different atmosphere to the AB/SA game! Beer? No line. Merchandise? Huuuuuuuge line.

                                      Anyone else here? I’m buying!

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                                        Pretty amazing how far Japan have come since Ellis got his 6 all those years ago.

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                                          Good point Gregan just made, that Japan would have targeted this game from as soon as the draw was known. The Ireland win was a massive extra obvs, but they would have done a lot of homework on this

                                          I still have Scotland by 5

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