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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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      @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

      Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

      Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

        Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

        Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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        @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

        Why not both?

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        • rotatedR rotated

          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

          Why not both?

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          @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

          Why not both?

          True. Was thinking just one or the other but that makes sense.

          Do we have to assume that Retallick will only play 60 due to fitness?

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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            @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

            For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

              For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

              For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

              I was thinking about exactly that earlier today. If JB is on the bench, as some have speculated, then this would be one of the greenest backlines the ABs have selected for a big RWC test in a long time. That's why I would put BFA on the bench to provide some experience if needed.

              Although, having said that, for the ABs to win it is the forwards who need to dominate.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                • rotatedR rotated

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                  It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                  Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                  @rotated probably only go back to the 2019 super season and you'd still be expecting a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty would be in the 23.

                  your comment on Crotty 😆

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                    I think it's strange to put Goodhue at 13 when ALB has been so good at 13 vs Wallabies at Eden Park and vs Boks opening game.

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                      Surely the experience of BFA trumps the potential of JB?

                      Horses for courses approach in the centres and I guess that entirely depends on tactics. SBW with ALB/Goodhue speaks to manipulation being the key while ALB with Goodhue speaks to banking on using fast ball and creating mismatches after a phase or two.

                      Personally I would go SBW/ALB with Goodhue on the bench.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        I think it's strange to put Goodhue at 13 when ALB has been so good at 13 vs Wallabies at Eden Park and vs Boks opening game.

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                        @KiwiMurph I guess they arent giving that EP test as much weighting as fans are, that said, I guess if it is the case, the ALB/Goodhue duo is one they have been looking to get going but havent been able to and was cut short in Perth...although may have been a blessing given how poorly our pack went.

                        But I guess if our pack turns up, the backs whichever are picked, will do the job.

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                          I'd play Goodhue every time over SBW alongside ALB. Without crotty there he is the defensive organiser. Constantly moving guys around to even up numbers and avoid mismatches.
                          Much better distribution too.

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                            I am hoping we have gone up a level since Bled 2.
                            That we are actually a better team with the changes we have implemented and that other teams haven't realized it yet.

                            That our dual playmaker system, dynamite Ardie at 6, in-form ALB, our reserve locks improving and two superb and in form wings will push us over the top.

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                              I am hoping we have gone up a level since Bled 2.
                              That we are actually a better team with the changes we have implemented and that other teams haven't realized it yet.

                              That our dual playmaker system, dynamite Ardie at 6, in-form ALB, our reserve locks improving and two superb and in form wings will push us over the top.

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                              @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              I am hoping we have gone up a level since Bled 2.
                              That we are actually a better team with the changes we have implemented and that other teams haven't realized it yet.

                              That our dual playmaker system, dynamite Ardie at 6, in-form ALB, our reserve locks improving and two superb and in form wings will push us over the top.

                              Surely it will be Crotty and ALB?

                              Personally for a massive game like this, I think Goodhue is too inexperienced. Crotty/SBW (I don't carte which with ALB outside them. Actually, I do care which, Crotty to start for me to help organise ourselves

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                              • F Frank

                                I am hoping we have gone up a level since Bled 2.
                                That we are actually a better team with the changes we have implemented and that other teams haven't realized it yet.

                                That our dual playmaker system, dynamite Ardie at 6, in-form ALB, our reserve locks improving and two superb and in form wings will push us over the top.

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                                @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                I am hoping we have gone up a level since Bled 2.
                                That we are actually a better team with the changes we have implemented and that other teams haven't realized it yet.

                                That our dual playmaker system, dynamite Ardie at 6, in-form ALB, our reserve locks improving and two superb and in form wings will push us over the top.

                                I think we underestimate how good the performance in the opener vs SA was. Not a perfect one, but they were well up for it and thought themselves a big chance, our defence held fast and we tore them apart for 15 minutes before half time, we were able to pull away from them in the final 15 minutes. Take away that jammy intercept score from an offside position and the margin looks even better

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                                  Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                                  Bring it on!!

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                                  • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                                    Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                                    Bring it on!!

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                                    @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                                    Bring it on!!

                                    That's the 'tude mate!! Good luck!! I hope it is fierce as it is competitive!!

                                    and then we run away with it at the end...

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                                      @canefan said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      Kick off 11.15 pm according to google (I thought it was 11.45pm). Is the team named today?

                                      7.15 (11.15 NZ time) according to the WR page. Foxtel has it at 9.15pm here.

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                                      @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @canefan said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      Kick off 11.15 pm according to google (I thought it was 11.45pm). Is the team named today?

                                      7.15 (11.15 NZ time) according to the WR page. Foxtel has it at 9.15pm here.

                                      8.15 in Qld

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                                        Confirmed
                                        All Blacks team to face Ireland:

                                        Beauden Barrett, Sevu Reece, Jack Goodhue, Anton Lienert-Brown, George Bridge, Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

                                        Reserves: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Angus Ta'avao, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barret

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                                          Like that 23 Boys will get the job done

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