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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    I’m sure Owens is stoked that the Irish media are saying these charming things about him and won’t carry any unconscious bias against them into the match

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116644447/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-fear-new-zealand-will-play-referee-nigel-owens

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      Since the Irish should be aiming at slowing ABs ball down as much as they can, highlighting the breakdown / ruck area doesn't seem that smart.... but I guess this isn't coming from the Irish camp though but the unwashed masses.

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        @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

        What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

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        @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

        What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

        Ringworm

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          lots of white noise around this test, love it!

          Much better than the cakewalks in the past!

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            A lot of people very nervous about this game.

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              team naming not far off, my 15:
              Moody, Taylor, Laulala
              BBBR, Whitelock
              Cane, Read, Ardie,
              Smith, Mounga,
              Crotty, ALB
              Bridge, BB, Reece

              Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                team naming not far off, my 15:
                Moody, Taylor, Laulala
                BBBR, Whitelock
                Cane, Read, Ardie,
                Smith, Mounga,
                Crotty, ALB
                Bridge, BB, Reece

                Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                  @Canes4life yea hooker is a toss of a coin for me, mid field, could be any combination but reckon that one has put in the best performance for us in the last year or so.

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                    Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                      @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                      Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                      Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                        @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                        Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                        Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                        @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                        Why not both?

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                          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                          Why not both?

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                          @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                          Why not both?

                          True. Was thinking just one or the other but that makes sense.

                          Do we have to assume that Retallick will only play 60 due to fitness?

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                            Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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                            @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                            For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                              @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                              For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                              @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                              For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                              I was thinking about exactly that earlier today. If JB is on the bench, as some have speculated, then this would be one of the greenest backlines the ABs have selected for a big RWC test in a long time. That's why I would put BFA on the bench to provide some experience if needed.

                              Although, having said that, for the ABs to win it is the forwards who need to dominate.

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                                @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                                For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                                @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                                It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                                Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                                  It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                                  Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                                  @rotated probably only go back to the 2019 super season and you'd still be expecting a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty would be in the 23.

                                  your comment on Crotty 😆

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                                    I think it's strange to put Goodhue at 13 when ALB has been so good at 13 vs Wallabies at Eden Park and vs Boks opening game.

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                                      Surely the experience of BFA trumps the potential of JB?

                                      Horses for courses approach in the centres and I guess that entirely depends on tactics. SBW with ALB/Goodhue speaks to manipulation being the key while ALB with Goodhue speaks to banking on using fast ball and creating mismatches after a phase or two.

                                      Personally I would go SBW/ALB with Goodhue on the bench.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        I think it's strange to put Goodhue at 13 when ALB has been so good at 13 vs Wallabies at Eden Park and vs Boks opening game.

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                                        @KiwiMurph I guess they arent giving that EP test as much weighting as fans are, that said, I guess if it is the case, the ALB/Goodhue duo is one they have been looking to get going but havent been able to and was cut short in Perth...although may have been a blessing given how poorly our pack went.

                                        But I guess if our pack turns up, the backs whichever are picked, will do the job.

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                                          I'd play Goodhue every time over SBW alongside ALB. Without crotty there he is the defensive organiser. Constantly moving guys around to even up numbers and avoid mismatches.
                                          Much better distribution too.

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