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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    I wish I knew who those comments and the ensuing articles were aimed at

    Anyone who knows anything about rugby knows every team has a strategy to disrupt the ruck.

    So who exactly are these blokes chirping at?

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

      I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

      He's also not in the current Irish team.

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      @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

      I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

      He's also not in the current Irish team.

      Yes he is just not playing /pedant

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12276884

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      • RapidoR Offline
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        #357

        Been lots of sideways ruck entering/cleaning this tournament. So, that seems the trend.

        Ruck entries (and invisible gates) don't really bother me much as a watching fan, as long as they aren't flying cleanouts blindsiding players. Which there aren't, so all good.

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        • The IrishmanT The Irishman

          @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

          I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

          What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

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          @The-Irishman said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

          I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

          What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

          Because everyone just thinks you're British

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            I’m sure Owens is stoked that the Irish media are saying these charming things about him and won’t carry any unconscious bias against them into the match

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116644447/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-fear-new-zealand-will-play-referee-nigel-owens

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              Since the Irish should be aiming at slowing ABs ball down as much as they can, highlighting the breakdown / ruck area doesn't seem that smart.... but I guess this isn't coming from the Irish camp though but the unwashed masses.

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              • D Derm McCrum

                @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

                What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

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                @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

                What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

                Ringworm

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                • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                  lots of white noise around this test, love it!

                  Much better than the cakewalks in the past!

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                    A lot of people very nervous about this game.

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                    • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                      team naming not far off, my 15:
                      Moody, Taylor, Laulala
                      BBBR, Whitelock
                      Cane, Read, Ardie,
                      Smith, Mounga,
                      Crotty, ALB
                      Bridge, BB, Reece

                      Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        team naming not far off, my 15:
                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala
                        BBBR, Whitelock
                        Cane, Read, Ardie,
                        Smith, Mounga,
                        Crotty, ALB
                        Bridge, BB, Reece

                        Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                        @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                          @Canes4life yea hooker is a toss of a coin for me, mid field, could be any combination but reckon that one has put in the best performance for us in the last year or so.

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                            Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                              @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                              Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                              Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                                Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                                Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                                @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                                Why not both?

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                                  @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                                  Why not both?

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                                  @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                                  Why not both?

                                  True. Was thinking just one or the other but that makes sense.

                                  Do we have to assume that Retallick will only play 60 due to fitness?

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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                                    @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                                    For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                                      For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                                      For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                                      I was thinking about exactly that earlier today. If JB is on the bench, as some have speculated, then this would be one of the greenest backlines the ABs have selected for a big RWC test in a long time. That's why I would put BFA on the bench to provide some experience if needed.

                                      Although, having said that, for the ABs to win it is the forwards who need to dominate.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Bovidae think Yealden had ALB/Goodhue, SBW on bench...

                                        For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

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                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                                        It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                                        Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          For me, just leaves us a bit green - Mounga, ALB, Goodhue, Bridge, Reece....less caps than BB??

                                          It would have been inconceivable to think just 12 months ago that a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty could all be outside the 23 for a QF.

                                          Inconceivable that Crotty would even be fit at this stage, yet here we are.

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                                          @rotated probably only go back to the 2019 super season and you'd still be expecting a fit Smith, Ioane and Crotty would be in the 23.

                                          your comment on Crotty 😆

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