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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    I wish someone would come up with something new. In the same breath they are saying about the ABs “they really push the boundaries at the breakdown and we just want a fair contest” to “they are a great rugby team”

    Boring.

    By the way, Bring on Ireland.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Bones said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      Hopefully there's something like no ALB so m4l loses his shit, or something like that.

      That would amuse me as well, but I really do want ALB in the team. Perhaps they could just forget to name him but play him anyway, best of both worlds.

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      @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      @Bones said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      Hopefully there's something like no ALB so m4l loses his shit, or something like that.

      That would amuse me as well, but I really do want ALB in the team. Perhaps they could just forget to name him but play him anyway, best of both worlds.

      Retallick on the bench, Scooter to start. Nom nom nom.

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

        @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

        I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

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        @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

        @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

        @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

        I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

        Tokoroa?

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

          I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

          Tokoroa?

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          #353

          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

          I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

          Tokoroa?

          Close. Republic of Otahuhu. A small pacific island nation in South Auckland. He is Irish though of course.

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            He may allow the game to flow more ,open running rugby will suit us down to the ground obviously,

            They want a stop start borefest, but they can’t say that , it sounds too negative and against what is good for the game

            Stop start borefest? Was the game in Dublin last November a borefest? Ignoring the outcome of the result, I think any rugby fan would have thought that was a great game to watch.

            The closeness of the score kept it interesting ,

            the way you guys play , is different to how we like to see the game played ,holding onto the ball for long peroids without actually doing too much variation wise with it, most kiwis find it boring and frustrating ,and i think the players do too ,

            it wins you games , its worked against us in recent times , so good luck to you , we hope to beat you by playing more fast open running rugby, you guys will more than likely try to prevent that happening by bringing the ball back into the trenches , not sure how it will all go , i guess we will find out,

            Which is what the comments were based on , different game styles , apologies if you find it offensive

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            @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            He may allow the game to flow more ,open running rugby will suit us down to the ground obviously,

            They want a stop start borefest, but they can’t say that , it sounds too negative and against what is good for the game

            Stop start borefest? Was the game in Dublin last November a borefest? Ignoring the outcome of the result, I think any rugby fan would have thought that was a great game to watch.

            The closeness of the score kept it interesting ,

            the way you guys play , is different to how we like to see the game played ,holding onto the ball for long peroids without actually doing too much variation wise with it, most kiwis find it boring and frustrating ,and i think the players do too ,

            it wins you games , its worked against us in recent times , so good luck to you , we hope to beat you by playing more fast open running rugby, you guys will more than likely try to prevent that happening by bringing the ball back into the trenches , not sure how it will all go , i guess we will find out,

            Which is what the comments were based on , different game styles , apologies if you find it offensive

            I would argue that the way NZ defend (or play without the ball) made that game boring (for us).

            So bloody passive. Get in their and compete occasionally, it's supposed to be a game of contest for possession.

            Passive in the tackle, passive in the ruck, passive line-speed.

            Plan A, B, C, D seemed to be waiting for our god-given right for the oppostion to make a mistake so we could counter-attack.

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              I wish I knew who those comments and the ensuing articles were aimed at

              Anyone who knows anything about rugby knows every team has a strategy to disrupt the ruck.

              So who exactly are these blokes chirping at?

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

                I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

                He's also not in the current Irish team.

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                @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                @canefan Stockdale (spit) and Best are Ulstermen. Don't know if they were born there, but play there I think. Can't recall any others.

                I’m pretty certain Bundee Aki isn’t from Northern Ireland

                He's also not in the current Irish team.

                Yes he is just not playing /pedant

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12276884

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                • RapidoR Offline
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                  #357

                  Been lots of sideways ruck entering/cleaning this tournament. So, that seems the trend.

                  Ruck entries (and invisible gates) don't really bother me much as a watching fan, as long as they aren't flying cleanouts blindsiding players. Which there aren't, so all good.

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                  • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                    @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

                    I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

                    What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

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                    @The-Irishman said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

                    I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

                    What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

                    Because everyone just thinks you're British

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                    • jeggaJ Offline
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                      #359

                      I’m sure Owens is stoked that the Irish media are saying these charming things about him and won’t carry any unconscious bias against them into the match

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116644447/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-fear-new-zealand-will-play-referee-nigel-owens

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                        #360

                        Since the Irish should be aiming at slowing ABs ball down as much as they can, highlighting the breakdown / ruck area doesn't seem that smart.... but I guess this isn't coming from the Irish camp though but the unwashed masses.

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                        • D Derm McCrum

                          @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

                          What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

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                          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Feel like it could be a very busy day for our backrow - Cane needs to get the better of Van der Flop and make sure he can't flop all over our ball. Savea needs to increase his chat and get in Nige's ear before his opposite number, Peter O'Moan-ey. Similarly, Read needs to win the running metres battle over his opposite, CJ Sub-Standard.

                          What about Sexytoes, Past-his-best, Grindshaw and Ring a Rosey? Surely they get a look in?

                          Ringworm

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                            lots of white noise around this test, love it!

                            Much better than the cakewalks in the past!

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                              A lot of people very nervous about this game.

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                                team naming not far off, my 15:
                                Moody, Taylor, Laulala
                                BBBR, Whitelock
                                Cane, Read, Ardie,
                                Smith, Mounga,
                                Crotty, ALB
                                Bridge, BB, Reece

                                Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  team naming not far off, my 15:
                                  Moody, Taylor, Laulala
                                  BBBR, Whitelock
                                  Cane, Read, Ardie,
                                  Smith, Mounga,
                                  Crotty, ALB
                                  Bridge, BB, Reece

                                  Outside of the mid-field and hooker, I'd be surprised if those above are not named to start.

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                                  @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                                    @Canes4life yea hooker is a toss of a coin for me, mid field, could be any combination but reckon that one has put in the best performance for us in the last year or so.

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                                      Knowler has Goodhue at centre and Coles starting in his team.

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                                        @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

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                                        @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                                        Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                                        Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                                          @Canes4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @taniwharugby I have the same as you, but would start Coles over Taylor.

                                          Same here. Coles starts every day of the week for me.

                                          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

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                                          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          Bench will be interesting around Tuipolutu and Red Barrett

                                          Why not both?

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