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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

    That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

    Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

    Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

    Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

    He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

    lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

    Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

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    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

    That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

    Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

    Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

    Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

    He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

    lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

    Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

    Don't recall Reece being kicked to at all, but do recall Bridge being out-jumped by Colby at least once (perhaps more). To be fair, his own good kick chase did lead to Le Roux spilling a high-ball, which then initiated the attack that led to our opening try.

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      Expecting absolutely huge games from Taylor and Goodhue, then Red and Todd when they come on.

      I would've gone with SBW & ALB to start with RC off the bench, but can understand throwing ALB at 12.

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        What time is the game jap time ?

        Unless I’m getting the forecast wrong , looks ok in the afternoon/ evening

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          What time is the game jap time ?

          Unless I’m getting the forecast wrong , looks ok in the afternoon/ evening

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          @kiwiinmelb 7.15pm local time I believe.

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            Weather forecast for that time is not that bad ,

            The heavier rain is predicted for earlier in the day , for that time its chance of a shower

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              Irish team

              1. Rob Kearney, 14. Keith Earls, 13. Garry Ringrose, 12. Robbie Henshaw, 11. Jacob Stockdale, 10. Johnny Sexton, 9. Conor Murray, 8. CJ Stander, 7. Josh Van der Flier, 6. Peter O'Mahony, 5. James Ryan, 4. Iain Henderson, 3. Tadhg Furlong, 2. Rory Best (capt.), 1. Cian Healy. Interchange: 16. Niall Scannell, 17. Dave Kilcoyne, 18. Andrew Porter, 19. Tadhg Beirne, 20. Rhys Ruddock, 21. Luke McGrath, 22. Joey Carbery, 23. Jordan Larmour.
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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                Weather forecast for that time is not that bad ,

                The heavier rain is predicted for earlier in the day , for that time its chance of a shower

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                @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Weather forecast for that time is not that bad ,

                The heavier rain is predicted for earlier in the day , for that time its chance of a shower

                Hopefully the pitch holds up

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                  Interesting they've gone with Kearney over Larmour.

                  I very much like the look of our bench compared to theirs. Am I allowed to say I wouldn't choose any Irish in a combined bench?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Interesting they've gone with Kearney over Larmour.

                    I very much like the look of our bench compared to theirs. Am I allowed to say I wouldn't choose any Irish in a combined bench?

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                    @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Interesting they've gone with Kearney over Larmour.

                    I very much like the look of our bench compared to theirs. Am I allowed to say I wouldn't choose any Irish in a combined bench?

                    Leave it till after the game

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Interesting they've gone with Kearney over Larmour.

                      I very much like the look of our bench compared to theirs. Am I allowed to say I wouldn't choose any Irish in a combined bench?

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                      @Bones 19. Tadhg Beirne over Todd

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                        @Bones 19. Tadhg Beirne over Todd

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                        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @Bones 19. Tadhg Beirne over Todd

                        I just thought that name was made up.

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                          been watching this live the last half hour, interesting, they dont seem too confident at all

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                            sorry wrong link

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                            • J junior

                              @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

                              Yeah, if we don't manage to win this match, there will be many parallels drawn with 2007:

                              1. underdone lock (a la Keith Robinson), although it would be a very small person to criticise Brodie’s selection;
                              2. largely untested midfield combo (see McAlister and Mils);
                              3. dropping an experienced midfielder (Crotty = Mauger) and outside back (BFA = Howlett)
                              4. backline players out of position (Beauden = Mils); and
                              5. lack of experience on the bench, especially in the backline (Jordie = Toeava)...

                              Only thing missing is a fullback playing centre!

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                              @junior Beauden is not playing out of position. He started at fullback for the ABs, and he's often fallen back there when replaced. Lots of people have maintained for a very long time that it's his best position.

                              Meanwhile the "inexperienced" midfield has nothing -- nothing -- compared to the first-fives at the last but one world cup. ALB is a veteran compared to Aaron Cruden.

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                                Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                Intriguing to say the least.

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                  That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                  Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                  Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                  Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                  He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                  lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                  Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

                                  Don't recall Reece being kicked to at all, but do recall Bridge being out-jumped by Colby at least once (perhaps more). To be fair, his own good kick chase did lead to Le Roux spilling a high-ball, which then initiated the attack that led to our opening try.

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                                  @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Don't recall Reece being kicked to at all, but do recall Bridge being out-jumped by Colby at least once (perhaps more). To be fair, his own good kick chase did lead to Le Roux spilling a high-ball, which then initiated the attack that led to our opening try.

                                  We might also see a similar tactic to the SA game by the ABs to nullify de Klerk's box kicking. That is, kick down the middle of the field and try to prevent Ireland and Murray playing in that 15 m channel.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                    Intriguing to say the least.

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                                    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                    Intriguing to say the least.

                                    I don't think it's intriguing at all. Ireland have one game plan, they're sticking with the players that know it and do it best. They're not evolving their game just perfecting it. It may work too, but they certainly would look like England in 91 if they tried something new

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                                      Irish team

                                      1. Rob Kearney, 14. Keith Earls, 13. Garry Ringrose, 12. Robbie Henshaw, 11. Jacob Stockdale, 10. Johnny Sexton, 9. Conor Murray, 8. CJ Stander, 7. Josh Van der Flier, 6. Peter O'Mahony, 5. James Ryan, 4. Iain Henderson, 3. Tadhg Furlong, 2. Rory Best (capt.), 1. Cian Healy. Interchange: 16. Niall Scannell, 17. Dave Kilcoyne, 18. Andrew Porter, 19. Tadhg Beirne, 20. Rhys Ruddock, 21. Luke McGrath, 22. Joey Carbery, 23. Jordan Larmour.
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                                      @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      Irish team

                                      1. Rob Kearney, 14. Keith Earls, 13. Garry Ringrose, 12. Robbie Henshaw, 11. Jacob Stockdale, 10. Johnny Sexton, 9. Conor Murray, 8. CJ Stander, 7. Josh Van der Flier, 6. Peter O'Mahony, 5. James Ryan, 4. Iain Henderson, 3. Tadhg Furlong, 2. Rory Best (capt.), 1. Cian Healy. Interchange: 16. Niall Scannell, 17. Dave Kilcoyne, 18. Andrew Porter, 19. Tadhg Beirne, 20. Rhys Ruddock, 21. Luke McGrath, 22. Joey Carbery, 23. Jordan Larmour.

                                      Interchange?! league

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                        Intriguing to say the least.

                                        I don't think it's intriguing at all. Ireland have one game plan, they're sticking with the players that know it and do it best. They're not evolving their game just perfecting it. It may work too, but they certainly would look like England in 91 if they tried something new

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                                        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                        Intriguing to say the least.

                                        I don't think it's intriguing at all. Ireland have one game plan, they're sticking with the players that know it and do it best. They're not evolving their game just perfecting it. It may work too, but they certainly would look like England in 91 if they tried something new

                                        It is intriguing! Which works: innovation vs tried and tested.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          Very happy with that Irish team. Schmidt has just reverted to the tried and tested. We have one coach who lost last November and has radically altered his game plan and selections. And the other who lost heavily to England and Wales in the 6N plus to japan and had stayed with the same selection and based on what we’ve seen so far the same game plan.

                                          Intriguing to say the least.

                                          I don't think it's intriguing at all. Ireland have one game plan, they're sticking with the players that know it and do it best. They're not evolving their game just perfecting it. It may work too, but they certainly would look like England in 91 if they tried something new

                                          It is intriguing! Which works: innovation vs tried and tested.

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                                          @Billy-Tell ah game is intriguing, just Irish selection is not

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