RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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Watched the game again. I'm astounded Kieran Read wasn't MOTM. He was awesome. Defence a brick wall, and his carrying amazing - not CJ Stander style carrying, but into a gap and offload the ball type carrying. Best match since his heyday a few years back.
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Yep the first 20 mins of ABs v England and we'll find out just how good these new comers are. Bring it on.
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Some big moves have happened and you have to give credit to the TWM
The big movers are Laulala, Savea, Mounga, ALB and Barrett in his best position at fullback@BerniesCorner said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Some big moves have happened and you have to give credit to the TWM
The big movers are Laulala, Savea, Mounga, ALB and Barrett in his best position at fullbackThought it a brave call to pick an under-played Jack Goodhue for a crunch game - worked real well
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I'm really glad Schmidt is coming home, he has been in the NH far too long and it's just excuse after excuse.
First sentence out of his mouth is "I don't really have an excuse" then within five minutes has offered up:
- Short week
- Injuries in the camp.
- Reversed penalty before half time was wrong decision.
Fair play he is dissapointed, but it was the same thing after the Japan game.
You get the sense he knew Ireland didn't have the momentum going into the tournament or at least part way though it.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
We won 46-14, ref had nothing to do with it.
And yes, the worlds best ref.
I think he's suggesting that we'd have won by more if not for Nige's terrible refereeing
Terrible?
Luigi is spot on.
Maybe not his best game, but Nigel was fine and reffed consistently, let the game flow and communicated well - as he always seems to do. Arguably the best Ref I've seen.
If we want decisions to be consistent across games, even when other refs aren't as good and make poor decisions on late or high tackles which wreck games, then so be it. Expect consistently poor reffing.
But I'd rather have a card-shy ref like Owens with his empathy with the players than a card-waving maniac any day.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
We won 46-14, ref had nothing to do with it.
And yes, the worlds best ref.
I think he's suggesting that we'd have won by more if not for Nige's terrible refereeing
Terrible?
Luigi is spot on.
Maybe not his best game, but Nigel was fine and reffed consistently, let the game flow and communicated well - as he always seems to do. Arguably the best Ref I've seen.
If we want decisions to be consistent across games, even when other refs aren't as good and make poor decisions on late or high tackles which wreck games, then so be it. Expect consistently poor reffing.
But I'd rather have a card-shy ref like Owens with his empathy with the players than a card-waving maniac any day.
Matt Todd ???
Owen's caught on Mic "super sizing" an offside yellow card with a no arms "deal". Was pretty shabby from a great ref
I agree with the assessment that Owen's is a top level ref but yesterday he was off with his methodology. The ruck entries and disruptions weren't up to scratch, and the goal line reffing of defenders was inconsistent. He reminded me of a teacher having a lazy day.
Nothing wrong with acknowledging a patchy performance amongst his legacy of excellence
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@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@SynicBast said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jesus, that's a massive call - 2015 we had the two best rugby players of all time and at least three other all time great All Blacks!
McCaw, Carter GOATs
Nonu-Smith - GOAT Midfield combination with Nonu arguably being the GOAT of all NZ 12s
Kev and Myth - all time great ABsKaino...?
I knew I missed one name - I plead dealing with an irish friend who had the gall to say Nigel favoured the ABs tonight
@SynicBast said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@SynicBast said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jesus, that's a massive call - 2015 we had the two best rugby players of all time and at least three other all time great All Blacks!
McCaw, Carter GOATs
Nonu-Smith - GOAT Midfield combination with Nonu arguably being the GOAT of all NZ 12s
Kev and Myth - all time great ABsKaino...?
I knew I missed one name - I plead dealing with an irish friend who had the gall to say Nigel favoured the ABs tonight
13-6 penalties in their favour, plus a made up yellow card. That's what we need to work on next game, discipline, along with making sure the team can mentally get up after that performance
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Pretty good run out there, thought the start was the key, had their foot on the throat and never removed.
That PT yellow was absurd, claiming Todd was off side (doesn't have to go further behind the line)
Thought Owens fine otherwise, the double penalty at half time was odd...Read has tackled the guy that was bound to the ball carrier...then that shoulder, FFS talk about looking for something...dumb by the Irish guy in the current climate but gee there was nothing in it.
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That was comfortably the worst reffing performance I've seen from Owens, culminating in the YC and penalty try which could have cost us the game in a tight one. I'm astounded anyone thinks he was fine, he had completely lost the plot at that point.
That said, I still firmly believe he's the best ref in the world so hope he takes stock and learns from his errors as I'd prefer he refs the semi/final than any of the others.
Refs have off days too, it's fine to admit that.
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That was comfortably the worst reffing performance I've seen from Owens, culminating in the YC and penalty try which could have cost us the game in a tight one. I'm astounded anyone thinks he was fine, he had completely lost the plot at that point.
That said, I still firmly believe he's the best ref in the world so hope he takes stock and learns from his errors as I'd prefer he refs the semi/final than any of the others.
Refs have off days too, it's fine to admit that.
@No-Quarter Yep agree 1000%
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I'm really glad Schmidt is coming home, he has been in the NH far too long and it's just excuse after excuse.
First sentence out of his mouth is "I don't really have an excuse" then within five minutes has offered up:
- Short week
- Injuries in the camp.
- Reversed penalty before half time was wrong decision.
Fair play he is dissapointed, but it was the same thing after the Japan game.
You get the sense he knew Ireland didn't have the momentum going into the tournament or at least part way though it.
@rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I'm really glad Schmidt is coming home, he has been in the NH far too long and it's just excuse after excuse.
First sentence out of his mouth is "I don't really have an excuse" then within five minutes has offered up:
- Short week
- Injuries in the camp.
- Reversed penalty before half time was wrong decision.
Fair play he is dissapointed, but it was the same thing after the Japan game.
You get the sense he knew Ireland didn't have the momentum going into the tournament or at least part way though it.
Momentum is a funny thing ,
His team peaked some time ago , and he was powerless to bring it back ,
Allblacks are a different kettle of fish , When things aren’t working we have more depth to make changes , tweak the game plan etc they dont have that luxury In depth and skill levels and you can sense the frustration
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@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: The only grip I want is the handle on the RWC.
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@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.You over egged it with the Horrendous tackle bit. 6/10 , I gave you an extra point for coming back for the semis you don't read too much into those numbers.
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@Yeetyaah said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Beaudie gets POTM
Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
MOTM is rubbish. Smith by a million miles.
Joe Moody for me. Just in Front of Smith and Read.
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that was cool from the Irish fans
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
that was cool from the Irish fans
Missed that. Please explain?
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Hit it too hard on Friday night, played some golf and went for a feed.
Had a little lie down before the game..... just woke up now.
Nice to see we won
How the fuck did I not set an alarm
@Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hit it too hard on Friday night, played some golf and went for a feed.
Had a little lie down before the game..... just woke up now.
Nice to see we won
How the fuck did I not set an alarm
Try doing that for the next two could you?
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Watching back the condensed version on Kayo.
Irish defence disintegrating in the face of an attack that isn't 6N rubbish.
Sexton and Kearney past their best.
And that penalty 40m our when 10-0 down. Why go for the corner? Gift three points for Sexton, surely?
The ruck shoulder charge penalty turnover from Irish 6 was gold tho. The two most cynical teams in world Rugby going at it.
Irish 11 having a shocker
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Whether his beloved boys in green win or whether they lose, Ewan MacKenna is still a tool:
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Whether his beloved boys in green win or whether they lose, Ewan MacKenna is still a tool:
Stay classy Ewan. I won't conflate an individual's crassness to be representative of
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Pretty good run out there, thought the start was the key, had their foot on the throat and never removed.
That PT yellow was absurd, claiming Todd was off side (doesn't have to go further behind the line)
Thought Owens fine otherwise, the double penalty at half time was odd...Read has tackled the guy that was bound to the ball carrier...then that shoulder, FFS talk about looking for something...dumb by the Irish guy in the current climate but gee there was nothing in it.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Pretty good run out there, thought the start was the key, had their foot on the throat and never removed.
That PT yellow was absurd, claiming Todd was off side (doesn't have to go further behind the line)
Thought Owens fine otherwise, the double penalty at half time was odd...Read has tackled the guy that was bound to the ball carrier...then that shoulder, FFS talk about looking for something...dumb by the Irish guy in the current climate but gee there was nothing in it.
Neither was a penalty
