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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Perfect chance to avenge our defeat in the 2003 semi final against the coach who was responsible for that defeat, John Mitchell.

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    @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Perfect chance to avenge our defeat in the 2003 semi final against the coach who was responsible for that defeat, John Mitchell.

    First Ireland, now England. It's Shag's ABs payback tour!!!

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      Looking forward to a week of media here.

      Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

      Bring it on!

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        Looking forward to a week of media here.

        Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

        Bring it on!

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        @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Looking forward to a week of media here.

        Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

        Bring it on!

        Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.
        Even more so after the ABs dispatch them.
        Brace yourselves

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          Looking forward to a week of media here.

          Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

          Bring it on!

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          @MajorRage How could you forget Aura?

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            Looking forward to a week of media here.

            Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

            Bring it on!

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            @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            Looking forward to a week of media here.

            Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

            Bring it on!

            I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though. 😎

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Looking forward to a week of media here.

              Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

              Bring it on!

              I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though. 😎

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              @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Looking forward to a week of media here.

              Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

              Bring it on!

              I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though. 😎

              Get outta town! Fella at the club asked me a question about next week's game...I laughed nervously and went to say I'll be watching from a basement somewhere or something. Only thing is he jumped straight in after my laugh with "See it's arrogance like that!!"...

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              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Looking forward to a week of media here.

                Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

                Bring it on!

                I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though. 😎

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                @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Looking forward to a week of media here.

                Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

                Bring it on!

                I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though. 😎

                Let's agree to share that one.

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                • MokeyM Mokey

                  @MajorRage How could you forget Aura?

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                  @Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @MajorRage How could you forget Aura?

                  Good call. But I suspect it will be about missing / diminished Aura.
                  Mainly from the Sun, who tend to dust off their rugby scribes just in time every 4 years or so and then equally quickly stuff them back into hibernation for another few years.

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                  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                    @Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @MajorRage How could you forget Aura?

                    Good call. But I suspect it will be about missing / diminished Aura.
                    Mainly from the Sun, who tend to dust off their rugby scribes just in time every 4 years or so and then equally quickly stuff them back into hibernation for another few years.

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                    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    quickly stuff them

                    I can make some other suggestions where they should "stuff them".

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                      Hope they play tuilagi at 13 , I know he is a handful carrying the ball, but I reckon we can expose him in defence, slow to move laterally

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                        Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.

                        We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
                        With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
                        With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Looking forward to a week of media here.

                          Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

                          Bring it on!

                          Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.
                          Even more so after the ABs dispatch them.
                          Brace yourselves

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                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Looking forward to a week of media here.

                          Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

                          Bring it on!

                          Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.

                          I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                          Joe Bloggs thinks England will beat All Blacks and here's how they'll do it... Whipdee blimmin do!

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            So refs ...

                            Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.

                            Backfired slightly.

                            On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.

                            Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.

                            Distinct preference not to get Faeces.

                            I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.

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                            @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            So refs ...

                            Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.

                            Backfired slightly.

                            On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.

                            Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.

                            Distinct preference not to get Faeces.

                            I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.

                            I wrote a bit on the other thread about this.

                            I reckon they won't give either us or England Owens and Garces twice in a row and Barnes can't do it - so that means Peyper.

                            On the same principle, Owens can't do Wales-SA and they won't give SA Barnes again - so Garces to get that one.

                            Leaving Owens and Barnes to fight out the final unless both Wales and England get there.

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                              Nevorian
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                              Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

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                                Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

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                                @Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

                                Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
                                The ultimate sacrifice.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

                                  Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
                                  The ultimate sacrifice.

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                                  @Crucial Nasty mind. mmm could be something to it..

                                  its feeling like a long week

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.

                                    We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
                                    With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
                                    With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength

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                                    @Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      So refs ...

                                      Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.

                                      Backfired slightly.

                                      On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.

                                      Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.

                                      Distinct preference not to get Faeces.

                                      I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.

                                      I wrote a bit on the other thread about this.

                                      I reckon they won't give either us or England Owens and Garces twice in a row and Barnes can't do it - so that means Peyper.

                                      On the same principle, Owens can't do Wales-SA and they won't give SA Barnes again - so Garces to get that one.

                                      Leaving Owens and Barnes to fight out the final unless both Wales and England get there.

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                                      Jailbreak7
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                                      @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

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                                      • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                        @Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.

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                                        @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.

                                        Sounds very Sun Tzu, but don't think it is?

                                        @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

                                        Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.

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                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.

                                          Sounds very Sun Tzu, but don't think it is?

                                          @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

                                          Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.

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                                          @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

                                          Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.

                                          Nah! I'm taking a positive approach. I can't even countenance a loss to the poms, so it simply won't happen.

                                          As long as the players and coaches don't look too far ahead, of course.

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