RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though.
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though.
Get outta town! Fella at the club asked me a question about next week's game...I laughed nervously and went to say I'll be watching from a basement somewhere or something. Only thing is he jumped straight in after my laugh with "See it's arrogance like that!!"...
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@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though.
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
I think you’ll find, arrogant-gate is one of ours. You’re welcome to the others though.
Let's agree to share that one.
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@Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage How could you forget Aura?
Good call. But I suspect it will be about missing / diminished Aura.
Mainly from the Sun, who tend to dust off their rugby scribes just in time every 4 years or so and then equally quickly stuff them back into hibernation for another few years. -
@Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage How could you forget Aura?
Good call. But I suspect it will be about missing / diminished Aura.
Mainly from the Sun, who tend to dust off their rugby scribes just in time every 4 years or so and then equally quickly stuff them back into hibernation for another few years.@Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
quickly stuff them
I can make some other suggestions where they should "stuff them".
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Hope they play tuilagi at 13 , I know he is a handful carrying the ball, but I reckon we can expose him in defence, slow to move laterally
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Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.
We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength -
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.
Even more so after the ABs dispatch them.
Brace yourselves@Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Joe Bloggs thinks England will beat All Blacks and here's how they'll do it... Whipdee blimmin do!
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So refs ...
Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.
Backfired slightly.
On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.
Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.
Distinct preference not to get Faeces.
I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So refs ...
Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.
Backfired slightly.
On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.
Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.
Distinct preference not to get Faeces.
I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.
I wrote a bit on the other thread about this.
I reckon they won't give either us or England Owens and Garces twice in a row and Barnes can't do it - so that means Peyper.
On the same principle, Owens can't do Wales-SA and they won't give SA Barnes again - so Garces to get that one.
Leaving Owens and Barnes to fight out the final unless both Wales and England get there.
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@Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually
Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
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@Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually
Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
The ultimate sacrifice. -
Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.
We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength -
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So refs ...
Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.
Backfired slightly.
On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.
Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.
Distinct preference not to get Faeces.
I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.
I wrote a bit on the other thread about this.
I reckon they won't give either us or England Owens and Garces twice in a row and Barnes can't do it - so that means Peyper.
On the same principle, Owens can't do Wales-SA and they won't give SA Barnes again - so Garces to get that one.
Leaving Owens and Barnes to fight out the final unless both Wales and England get there.
@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
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@Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.
Sounds very Sun Tzu, but don't think it is?
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.
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@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Crucial Agreed. Your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.
Sounds very Sun Tzu, but don't think it is?
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.
Nah! I'm taking a positive approach. I can't even countenance a loss to the poms, so it simply won't happen.
As long as the players and coaches don't look too far ahead, of course.
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Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.
We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.
We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strengthYea, winning the territorial battle will be key - England simply do not play any rugby inside their own half, so we need to keep them there and ask them to kick the ball back to us. The Aussies did half of England's job for them on the weekend with their inability / refusal to exit their own 22m after kick offs.
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@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.
I'm not sure how happy I'd be with him, TBH. He reffed well in the first Lions test in 2017, but he's also the nonce that didn't card Farrell for one of his blatant shoulder charges (I believe it was on Rodda).
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@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.
We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strengthYea, winning the territorial battle will be key - England simply do not play any rugby inside their own half, so we need to keep them there and ask them to kick the ball back to us. The Aussies did half of England's job for them on the weekend with their inability / refusal to exit their own 22m after kick offs.
@junior Yeah that's a good point - if you plug it deep, it's not exactly a scary prospect to have their back 3 and/or 10 run it back - which they most likely wouldn't anyway. Watson is the scariest there and while he's great going forward I don't see him as dangerous when well behind the line.
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There really is something about the English, isn't there? Absolutely no chance of us getting ambushed when this kind of tosh is being written...
New Zealand will be less profligate; they will also be less tactically gung-ho and possess a far better kicking game. But England, unlike Ireland, are a team on the up, having started to marry physical dynamism with surer judgment and calmer decision-making. Do the All Blacks have prop forwards who offer a greater carrying threat than Sinckler and Mako Vunipola? Do they have a hooker in better form than Jamie George? Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje? If, on the day, the answer to even some of those questions is “no” then England will feel they can, at worst, rattle the All Blacks’ cage.
New Zealand are ultimate challenge but England can face them down
