Judiciary Happenings
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@TeWaio Me as well, thought Barnes was a bit cheeky there. It deserved a TMO look, but I think he knew it could well be a red if it went to the TMO lottery. So went immediate yellow to avoid controversy.
To be fair there were a few aerial challenges in that game that would have been straight yellow in super rugby as well.
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@mooshld that was as close to a red as a yellow can get imo. I think that's why Barnes jumped on the shoulder first contact and went yellow asap. I thought he handled other contact situations pretty well, compared to other refs that'd get card happy.
But soooo close to red, and who knows what might have happened!
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@TeWaio said in Judiciary Happenings:
Can't wait for the Beast update on this thread....
Here's your update: no citing. The window (36 hours after conclusion of the match) has closed.
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@Billy-Webb
But, but, but what are half the people on this site going to do if they can't argue with a citing despite virtually none of them ever actually having reffed and or read a law book?????????? -
@Frank hahaha. True. But then again, lack of knowledge has hardly ever stopped any of us from adding our 2c
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@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Frank hahaha. True. But then again, lack of knowledge has hardly ever stopped any of us from adding
our 2cto that lack of knowledgeFixed
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@cgrant said in Judiciary Happenings:
Maybe a bit out of thread but Jaco Peyper was not considered for the semi-finals because of his controversial photo with Welsh Fans.
and absolutely the right call imo.
Stupid thing for him to have done and World Rugby needed to be seen to act.
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@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
If his style of refereeing hasn't harmed his career to date, one photo surely won't.
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@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
If his style of refereeing hasn't harmed his career to date, one photo surely won't.
Interestingly, some friends recently (pre-RWC but this year) spent some time with Steve Tew and colleagues, and their view was that they'd happily ditch neutral refs if they could have Peyper for every game. Really rated him.
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@voodoo said in Judiciary Happenings:
@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
If his style of refereeing hasn't harmed his career to date, one photo surely won't.
Interestingly, some friends recently (pre-RWC but this year) spent some time with Steve Tew and colleagues, and their view was that they'd happily ditch neutral refs if they could have Peyper for every game. Really rated him.
Because he lets a lot of things go, probably. Suits the AB ability to allow ball down when the ruck is messy
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@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:
@voodoo said in Judiciary Happenings:
@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
If his style of refereeing hasn't harmed his career to date, one photo surely won't.
Interestingly, some friends recently (pre-RWC but this year) spent some time with Steve Tew and colleagues, and their view was that they'd happily ditch neutral refs if they could have Peyper for every game. Really rated him.
Because he lets a lot of things go, probably. Suits the AB ability to allow ball down when the ruck is messy
all refs have their own unique way of favoring us
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@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
Wayne Barnes was a moran for over 80 minutes and his career blossomed afterwards.
Faeces has consistently been a moran and is still getting the big jobs.
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@Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
Just hope for his sake it doesn't permanently harm his career.
Wayne Barnes was a moran for over 80 minutes and his career blossomed afterwards.
Faeces has consistently been a moran and is still getting the big jobs.
Jaco might be O.K. but that would require some consistency.Good points all of those.
At least Clive Woodward thinks it's a storm-in-a-teacup:
"I support Jaco Peyper 100 percent in having a little fun with Welsh supporters on Sunday night. It's ludicrous that the so-called incident is being investigated in any way and for those in the French camp kicking off I would say you have infinitely more serious things to be considering. Such as your shambolic coaching and persistent ill-discipline on the pitch which for decades now has seen France under-perform. There is zero controversy or intrigue here, the French lock got precisely what he deserved. Jaco Peyper was out relaxing after a huge game and the day a referee cannot enjoy a beer and a joke with either the players or fans is the day rugby has lost its way."
Not often I'd say this - but nicely said Sir Clive!
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Might see some action tomorrow.
Louw punching. Video has disappeared. Will try to find it.
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@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
Might see some action tomorrow.
Louw punching. Video has disappeared. Will try to find it.
If he did, he's an idiot and I don't want him near the final then. Game costing stupidity if anyone indulges in that sort of thing these days. This Bok team has been so much better than that shit of late, I'd be deeply disappointed.
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@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
Might see some action tomorrow.
Louw punching. Video has disappeared. Will try to find it.
If he did, he's an idiot and I don't want him near the final then. Game costing stupidity if anyone indulges in that sort of thing these days. This Bok team has been so much better than that shit of late, I'd be deeply disappointed.
Being held in at ruck, then delivers several uppercuts.
Can't see whether they connect, but intent was there.
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@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
Might see some action tomorrow.
Louw punching. Video has disappeared. Will try to find it.
If he did, he's an idiot and I don't want him near the final then. Game costing stupidity if anyone indulges in that sort of thing these days. This Bok team has been so much better than that shit of late, I'd be deeply disappointed.
Being held in at ruck, then delivers several uppercuts.
Can't see whether they connect, but intent was there.
ah, fair enough then
No, seriously, although I have a degree of sympathy for responding to off-the-ball illegal play, if he's swing punches it is stupidity of epic proportions.
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@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:
@MiketheSnow said in Judiciary Happenings:
Might see some action tomorrow.
Louw punching. Video has disappeared. Will try to find it.
If he did, he's an idiot and I don't want him near the final then. Game costing stupidity if anyone indulges in that sort of thing these days. This Bok team has been so much better than that shit of late, I'd be deeply disappointed.
Being held in at ruck, then delivers several uppercuts.
Can't see whether they connect, but intent was there.
I recall seeing someone held in a ruck but from the wide angle it looked like he was busy hitting the hand that was holding him in. May be different from a close shot.
If he's punching a person rather than hitting the arm holding him in, then no problems with him fronting the judiciary and missing the final. However, if it's the latter, then play on McDuff.
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Best I could find to date. Hit full screen.
Would love to see the reverse angle on that.
Intent is there. Connection?
Video