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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • rotatedR Offline
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    #145

    Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

    Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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      Eddie can spout off as much as he likes. The All Blacks will be make their statement on Saturday evening.

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      • rotatedR rotated

        Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

        Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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        @rotated Prepare well, focus on own strengths, play well for each other.

        Bang! Just like that Mitch zooms England to favourites.

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        • R Richie8-7

          We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

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          @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

          On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

          Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

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          • rotatedR rotated

            Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

            Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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            @rotated Agree, I thought he came across pretty well, and I'm far from his biggest fan. He actually considered the qns, which is my biggest gripe, the flippant pre-prepared fob-off answer

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

              On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

              Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

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              @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

              On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

              Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

              The other positive of having Nige as our ref is that he's less likely to let the English chirping affect his decision-making, at least in their favour (see his telling off of Murray on the weekend).

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                #151

                Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                  I almost clicked on the link until I saw

                  "highly respected British rugby writer Stuart Barnes"

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                    @Bones it remains to be seen if he is correct. I suspect the ABs have quietly undergone a revolution in terms of how they play the game, and these so called experts like Barnes and O'Sullivan have not yet fully cottoned on. Our boys are the only ones who can get in the way of an AB win. A lack of physicality or handling will allow England to feed off our mistakes. But I'm quietly confident that we will win comfortably and that we will run England off the park

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                      I almost clicked on the link until I saw

                      "highly respected British rugby writer Stuart Barnes"

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                      @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                        @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                        Hmmm... so the AB front-row,midfield and wings suck compared to England.
                        And Hansen is playing B.Barrett out of position.

                        This can't end well.

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                          Hmmm... so the AB front-row,midfield and wings suck compared to England.
                          And Hansen is playing B.Barrett out of position.

                          This can't end well.

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                          @Billy-Webb to be fair only half the wings, for some reason I can't stand May but his form is pretty irresistible and he's fairly similar to Bridge.

                          Plus, someone's got to be responsible for letting such an average Irish team score so many points.

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                          • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                            @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                            Hmmm... so the AB front-row,midfield and wings suck compared to England.
                            And Hansen is playing B.Barrett out of position.

                            This can't end well.

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                            @Billy-Webb

                            Screenshot_20191023-021505_Gallery.jpg

                            I suspect Eddie understands what game we are playing....

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

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                              @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

                              Look. I'm not going to click on it so you will just have to tell me who that is.

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                                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

                                Look. I'm not going to click on it so you will just have to tell me who that is.

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                                @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

                                Look. I'm not going to click on it so you will just have to tell me who that is.

                                Sigh. Manu Vunipola...

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

                                  Look. I'm not going to click on it so you will just have to tell me who that is.

                                  Sigh. Manu Vunipola...

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                                  @Bones See, now I thought you were being serious and that Barnes had sprung a REAL left field one.

                                  Edit: Which would not altogether surprise me.

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                                    @Bones See, now I thought you were being serious and that Barnes had sprung a REAL left field one.

                                    Edit: Which would not altogether surprise me.

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                                    @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    @Bones See, now I thought you were being serious and that Barnes had sprung a REAL left field one.

                                    Edit: Which would not altogether surprise me.

                                    Well I've never heard of him. But if he's from England then he's probably a supreme tight forward.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Bones it remains to be seen if he is correct. I suspect the ABs have quietly undergone a revolution in terms of how they play the game, and these so called experts like Barnes and O'Sullivan have not yet fully cottoned on. Our boys are the only ones who can get in the way of an AB win. A lack of physicality or handling will allow England to feed off our mistakes. But I'm quietly confident that we will win comfortably and that we will run England off the park

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                                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      @Bones it remains to be seen if he is correct. I suspect the ABs have quietly undergone a revolution in terms of how they play the game, and these so called experts like Barnes and O'Sullivan have not yet fully cottoned on. Our boys are the only ones who can get in the way of an AB win. A lack of physicality or handling will allow England to feed off our mistakes. But I'm quietly confident that we will win comfortably and that we will run England off the park

                                      Yes I am with. It’s interesting that someone like Barnes who has a secret Hard on for the ABs still does not get that Barrett was struggling at 10 despite the World Player of the year awards. It’s been clear as day to us that Mounga is better in that role and Barrett relishes the space at the back. The Irish pundits did not get it at all but hilarious to see their post mortems now. It is a hard road that the ABs have to take to win this but like last game I feel good. The ABs having this much time together is more meaningful than any other team. They have form, fitness and chemistry on their side, they know exactly what’s coming , ABs by at least 10.

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                                        @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Bones it remains to be seen if he is correct. I suspect the ABs have quietly undergone a revolution in terms of how they play the game, and these so called experts like Barnes and O'Sullivan have not yet fully cottoned on. Our boys are the only ones who can get in the way of an AB win. A lack of physicality or handling will allow England to feed off our mistakes. But I'm quietly confident that we will win comfortably and that we will run England off the park

                                        Yes I am with. It’s interesting that someone like Barnes who has a secret Hard on for the ABs still does not get that Barrett was struggling at 10 despite the World Player of the year awards. It’s been clear as day to us that Mounga is better in that role and Barrett relishes the space at the back. The Irish pundits did not get it at all but hilarious to see their post mortems now. It is a hard road that the ABs have to take to win this but like last game I feel good. The ABs having this much time together is more meaningful than any other team. They have form, fitness and chemistry on their side, they know exactly what’s coming , ABs by at least 10.

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                                        @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

                                        A very nice problem to have.

                                        Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

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                                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                          @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

                                          A very nice problem to have.

                                          Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

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                                          @Catogrande think you're safe with Rancid no longer lurking.

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