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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • BonesB Bones

    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

    Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

    Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

    And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

    Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

    Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

    Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

    And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

    Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.

    See, in booboo world that's play on because the player behind didn't play at it.

    I really should just go read the law book myself ...

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    • G Gunner

      @Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      Looking forward to a week of media here.

      Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

      Bring it on!

      Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.

      I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

      Joe Bloggs thinks England will beat All Blacks and here's how they'll do it... Whipdee blimmin do!

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      @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

      Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

      He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

        Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
        The ultimate sacrifice.

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        @Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
        The ultimate sacrifice.

        I think you've just thought up a fresh conspiracy theory for the English rugby media.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

          Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

          He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

          Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

          He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

          There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

            Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

            He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

            There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.

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            @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

              Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

              He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

              He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

              Take out Smith and Beauden has more caps than the rest of the backline including ALB, combined. Players accumulate test caps very quickly nowadays.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

                That's our underrated little secret. Best bench in the tourney

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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                  @Bones Safe to assume that. No story otherwise 😱

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                    Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

                    Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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                      Eddie can spout off as much as he likes. The All Blacks will be make their statement on Saturday evening.

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                      • rotatedR rotated

                        Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

                        Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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                        @rotated Prepare well, focus on own strengths, play well for each other.

                        Bang! Just like that Mitch zooms England to favourites.

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                        • R Richie8-7

                          We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

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                          @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

                          On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

                          Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

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                          • rotatedR rotated

                            Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

                            Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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                            @rotated Agree, I thought he came across pretty well, and I'm far from his biggest fan. He actually considered the qns, which is my biggest gripe, the flippant pre-prepared fob-off answer

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

                              On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

                              Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

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                              @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

                              On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.

                              Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.

                              The other positive of having Nige as our ref is that he's less likely to let the English chirping affect his decision-making, at least in their favour (see his telling off of Murray on the weekend).

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                                Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                                  I almost clicked on the link until I saw

                                  "highly respected British rugby writer Stuart Barnes"

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                                    @Bones it remains to be seen if he is correct. I suspect the ABs have quietly undergone a revolution in terms of how they play the game, and these so called experts like Barnes and O'Sullivan have not yet fully cottoned on. Our boys are the only ones who can get in the way of an AB win. A lack of physicality or handling will allow England to feed off our mistakes. But I'm quietly confident that we will win comfortably and that we will run England off the park

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                                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                                      I almost clicked on the link until I saw

                                      "highly respected British rugby writer Stuart Barnes"

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                                      @Catogrande only the arrogant English could select someone who's never even featured in international rugby in a combined team.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

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                                        @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                                        Hmmm... so the AB front-row,midfield and wings suck compared to England.
                                        And Hansen is playing B.Barrett out of position.

                                        This can't end well.

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                                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116764615/all-blacks-v-england-english-rule-a-combined-xv-with-new-zealand-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-semifinal?cid=facebook.post

                                          Hmmm... so the AB front-row,midfield and wings suck compared to England.
                                          And Hansen is playing B.Barrett out of position.

                                          This can't end well.

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                                          @Billy-Webb to be fair only half the wings, for some reason I can't stand May but his form is pretty irresistible and he's fairly similar to Bridge.

                                          Plus, someone's got to be responsible for letting such an average Irish team score so many points.

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