RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.
I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end
Re the BB try I'm pretty certain the law was you're not offside if the ball rebounded off a player that was not playing at the ball.
Reece was attempting a tackle and it initially appeared that the ball may have bounced forward off his head. (Obviously it didn't it as he hit Sex Toy's elbow and the ball went backward off green.)
My query, which is now a moot point but I'm still interested, is if it had hit Reece's head would Mo'unga be offside as Reece did not play at the ball.
My understanding is he would not have been offside. But my understanding may be either out if date, mistaken or both.
Maybe I should ask @Damo.
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@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
@Bones and that was what NO was getting clarification for, so have to assume it was relevant.
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@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.
Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.
And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.
Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.
And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.
Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.
And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.
Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.
Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.
And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.
Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.
Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.
Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.
And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.
Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.
See, in booboo world that's play on because the player behind didn't play at it.
I really should just go read the law book myself ...
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Looking forward to a week of media here.
Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.
Bring it on!
Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Joe Bloggs thinks England will beat All Blacks and here's how they'll do it... Whipdee blimmin do!
@Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
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@Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually
Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
The ultimate sacrifice.@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
The ultimate sacrifice.I think you've just thought up a fresh conspiracy theory for the English rugby media.
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@Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.
@Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".
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@Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....
He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.
Take out Smith and Beauden has more caps than the rest of the backline including ALB, combined. Players accumulate test caps very quickly nowadays.
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@Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".
That's our underrated little secret. Best bench in the tourney
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@Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".
@Bones Safe to assume that. No story otherwise
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Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.
Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.
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We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.
@Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.
On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.
Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.
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Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.
Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.
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@Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.
On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.
Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.
@sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.
On balance, this is good news. The English are familar with Nigel Owens but so are the All Blacks. We gave away too many penalties on Saturday, the ABs will have to look at the tape and see how they can manage Owens' interpretations better.
Two gains though. With Owens you get more patrolling of the offisde line than some refs, England were in front of the back foot at almost every ruck with Garces before the Aussie had the ball out last week. Also, Nigel is as experienced as they come, so no chance of him freezing on the big occasion.
The other positive of having Nige as our ref is that he's less likely to let the English chirping affect his decision-making, at least in their favour (see his telling off of Murray on the weekend).
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Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.
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Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Was the combined "dream team" posted? Manu Vunipola was a surprise.
I almost clicked on the link until I saw
"highly respected British rugby writer Stuart Barnes"
