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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Someone spotted with a long lens

    The return of Bartman?

    Apparently they were videoing! As to how you would know that, I have no idea.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Someone spotted with a long lens

    The return of Bartman?

    Apparently they were videoing! As to how you would know that, I have no idea.

    May be they wanted to know how to kick a decent gary owen?

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      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      Someone spotted with a long lens

      The return of Bartman?

      Apparently they were videoing! As to how you would know that, I have no idea.

      May be they wanted to know how to kick a decent gary owen?

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      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      Someone spotted with a long lens

      The return of Bartman?

      Apparently they were videoing! As to how you would know that, I have no idea.

      May be they wanted to know how to kick a decent gary owen?

      Well can't be a huge amount of Gary's in Japan.

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      • NTAN NTA

        @Duluth said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Rapido

        Impressive tackling stats from their pack (Most of the misses came from the backs, particularly 10/12/13)

        Player Tackles Missed Tackles
        M Vunipola 20 0
        George 18 0
        Sinckler 10 1
        Itoje 15 0
        Lawes 15 0
        Curry 17 1
        Underhill 20 2
        B Vunipola 16 0

        Also fairly straightforward when the modus operandii of the opposition is one-out running straight at a defender.

        The Poms are big, strong lads. They play that style in their Premiership every week. Lapped it up.

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        @NTA said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Duluth said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Rapido

        Impressive tackling stats from their pack (Most of the misses came from the backs, particularly 10/12/13)

        Player Tackles Missed Tackles
        M Vunipola 20 0
        George 18 0
        Sinckler 10 1
        Itoje 15 0
        Lawes 15 0
        Curry 17 1
        Underhill 20 2
        B Vunipola 16 0

        Also fairly straightforward when the modus operandii of the opposition is one-out running straight at a defender.

        The Poms are big, strong lads. They play that style in their Premiership every week. Lapped it up.

        Yeah, the English may have have had to defend for most of the game, but the Aussies didn't make doing so very difficult.

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

          I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end

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          @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

          I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end

          Re the BB try I'm pretty certain the law was you're not offside if the ball rebounded off a player that was not playing at the ball.

          Reece was attempting a tackle and it initially appeared that the ball may have bounced forward off his head. (Obviously it didn't it as he hit Sex Toy's elbow and the ball went backward off green.)

          My query, which is now a moot point but I'm still interested, is if it had hit Reece's head would Mo'unga be offside as Reece did not play at the ball.

          My understanding is he would not have been offside. But my understanding may be either out if date, mistaken or both.

          Maybe I should ask @Damo.

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            Saying read has a tight calf , didn’t train , spent the morning on the bike in the gym

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            @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            Saying read has a tight calf , didn’t train , spent the morning on the bike in the gym

            Harden up. Not like your foot is broken in three places ...

            .... Nooooo ....

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            • boobooB booboo

              @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

              I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end

              Re the BB try I'm pretty certain the law was you're not offside if the ball rebounded off a player that was not playing at the ball.

              Reece was attempting a tackle and it initially appeared that the ball may have bounced forward off his head. (Obviously it didn't it as he hit Sex Toy's elbow and the ball went backward off green.)

              My query, which is now a moot point but I'm still interested, is if it had hit Reece's head would Mo'unga be offside as Reece did not play at the ball.

              My understanding is he would not have been offside. But my understanding may be either out if date, mistaken or both.

              Maybe I should ask @Damo.

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              @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

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                @Bones and that was what NO was getting clarification for, so have to assume it was relevant.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

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                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

                  Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

                  Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

                  And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

                    Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

                    Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

                    And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

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                    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

                    Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

                    Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

                    And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

                    Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

                      Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

                      Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

                      And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

                      Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.

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                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @booboo pretty sure that's league (not playing at the ball). Otherwise there'd be no such thing as accidental offside.

                      Was certainly a law in proper rugby back in the day.

                      Just like you could mark a knock on... back when I knew the law book backwards.

                      And disagree about accidental offside. That's when a player plays at the ball, knocks it forward (for example) and it rebounds into a player in front accidentally.

                      Or when the ball comes off a player accidentally into a player in front without the player in front playing at it. For example.

                      See, in booboo world that's play on because the player behind didn't play at it.

                      I really should just go read the law book myself ...

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                      • GunnerG Gunner

                        @Billy-Webb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        Looking forward to a week of media here.

                        Haka-gate, refs in pocket gate, poaching gate, arrogant gate, cheat gate.

                        Bring it on!

                        Going to be fun reading the expert opinion columns.

                        I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                        Joe Bloggs thinks England will beat All Blacks and here's how they'll do it... Whipdee blimmin do!

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                        @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                        Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                        He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Attack at Farrell - he is bound to make a shoulder tackle eventually

                          Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
                          The ultimate sacrifice.

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                          @Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Here's an idea. Start with Crotty as you know he won't last long before breaking anyway, then instruct him to run head first at Farrell's shoulder.
                          The ultimate sacrifice.

                          I think you've just thought up a fresh conspiracy theory for the English rugby media.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                            Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                            He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                            Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                            He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

                            There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                              Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                              He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

                              There's been a bit in the press about how relatively inexperienced the current NZ backline is, Bridge, Reece, Goodhue and Mo'unga but yeah, putting ALB in there is something of a stretch. Maybe they're referencing his age. He's quite young to be a 40 cap veteran? Odd though still.

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                              @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Gunner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                I get sick of seeing these bloody columns....

                                Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                                He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                Read something yesterday which talked of "the inexperienced Anton Lienart-Brown"....

                                He's got 40-ish caps and been in tha ABs for 3 years FFS.

                                Take out Smith and Beauden has more caps than the rest of the backline including ALB, combined. Players accumulate test caps very quickly nowadays.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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                                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

                                  That's our underrated little secret. Best bench in the tourney

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Catogrande I assume they're ignoring the bench then? Sorry Eddie..."finishers".

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                                    @Bones Safe to assume that. No story otherwise 😱

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                                      Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

                                      Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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                                        Eddie can spout off as much as he likes. The All Blacks will be make their statement on Saturday evening.

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                                        • rotatedR rotated

                                          Eddie really does have a disposition and confidence that gives you pause supporting the opposition.

                                          Almost had me worried the ABs might be in trouble this week until about the 6:55 mark.

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                                          @rotated Prepare well, focus on own strengths, play well for each other.

                                          Bang! Just like that Mitch zooms England to favourites.

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