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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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    Eddie Jones is enjoying his week. He's a funny little bugger

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      @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

      A very nice problem to have.

      Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

      man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

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      @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

      A very nice problem to have.

      Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

      man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

      Yep.

      Foster was on some show (or YouTube) last year talking about how they wanted to get the ball in his hands more often, and that was a big reason to keep him at 10, but it seems like they’ve worked out how to use him at 15 while still making sure he gets plenty of opportunities to get his hands on the ball. His stats last week were off the charts and they are putting him in positions for better mismatches too. If we win, that one coaching strategy should be applauded - they’ve redefined how to use him and redefined (possibly) what a WC 15 should be able to do (although I think it’s really a strategy to use Barrett’s speed and ability to take a gap).

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Eddie Jones is enjoying his week. He's a funny little bugger

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        @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Eddie Jones is enjoying his week. He's a funny little bugger

        Yeah he is. Hansen seemed to enjoy his last press conference as well.

        I think that it was mentioned somewhere that they get on well?

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          Eddie Jones is enjoying his week. He's a funny little bugger

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          @mariner4life he is rugby's Jimmy Spithill.

          They know what buttons to push and the media lap it up.

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            @mariner4life he is rugby's Jimmy Spithill.

            They know what buttons to push and the media lap it up.

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @mariner4life he is rugby's Jimmy Spithill.

            They know what buttons to push and the media lap it up.

            his delivery is great too, and his little crooked grin. cracks me up.

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              Ignore the clickbait title - it's the press conference and he's obviously relaxed, confident and enjoying it.

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                Ignore the clickbait title - it's the press conference and he's obviously relaxed, confident and enjoying it.

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                @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Ignore the clickbait title - it's the press conference and he's obviously relaxed, confident and enjoying it.

                yep. And they should be, they are a good side in form. 50/50 chance of winning. And i reckon he'll have a trick or two up his sleeve as well.

                Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

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                  @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  Ignore the clickbait title - it's the press conference and he's obviously relaxed, confident and enjoying it.

                  yep. And they should be, they are a good side in form. 50/50 chance of winning. And i reckon he'll have a trick or two up his sleeve as well.

                  Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

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                  @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

                  Good enough for me to hedge.

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                    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

                    Good enough for me to hedge.

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                    @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

                    Good enough for me to hedge.

                    my betting account knows no heart

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                      Interesting that we are New Zealand and not the All Blacks (again) at the beginning.
                      Enoka busiest All Black coach because of pressure.
                      Played the under dog card nicely.

                      Good stuff Eddie.

                      Actually three of the four coaches seem like decent blokes - Gatland would get a pass when he isn't coaching the Lions.

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                        Interesting that we are New Zealand and not the All Blacks (again) at the beginning.
                        Enoka busiest All Black coach because of pressure.
                        Played the under dog card nicely.

                        Good stuff Eddie.

                        Actually three of the four coaches seem like decent blokes - Gatland would get a pass when he isn't coaching the Lions.

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                        @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        Gatland would get a pass when he isn't coaching the Lions.

                        Chiefs coach now, i think he's grand

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                          who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

                          The dirty cynical cheating #1 side going for a threepeat of World Cups?

                          or the English?

                          The old 'fights, injuries and the ref"?

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                            @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            Gatland would get a pass when he isn't coaching the Lions.

                            Chiefs coach now, i think he's grand

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                            @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            Chiefs coach now, i think he's grand

                            So back to being a piston wristed gibbon then. Poor Warren.

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                              @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

                              A very nice problem to have.

                              Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

                              man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

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                              @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

                              A very nice problem to have.

                              Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

                              man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

                              I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.

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                                who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

                                The dirty cynical cheating #1 side going for a threepeat of World Cups?

                                or the English?

                                The old 'fights, injuries and the ref"?

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                                @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

                                My guess:

                                I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
                                Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
                                Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
                                French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
                                Scots with us.
                                PI's with us (I would hope).

                                The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

                                Gonna be fun.

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

                                  Good enough for me to hedge.

                                  my betting account knows no heart

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                                  @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

                                  Good enough for me to hedge.

                                  my betting account knows no heart

                                  Come on, surely not??!!! You can't collect on an AB loss, that's just filthy behaviour!

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                                    Any oil on the team yet?

                                    Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                                    We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      Any oil on the team yet?

                                      Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                                      We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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                                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Any oil on the team yet?

                                      Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                                      We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

                                      Just a change to the Bench with Todd injured but I guess it will be Tuipoluto?

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        Any oil on the team yet?

                                        Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                                        We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        Any oil on the team yet?

                                        Its teflon.

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                                          Have they confirmed Cane is OK?

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