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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

    The dirty cynical cheating #1 side going for a threepeat of World Cups?

    or the English?

    The old 'fights, injuries and the ref"?

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      @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      Gatland would get a pass when he isn't coaching the Lions.

      Chiefs coach now, i think he's grand

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      @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      Chiefs coach now, i think he's grand

      So back to being a piston wristed gibbon then. Poor Warren.

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        @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

        A very nice problem to have.

        Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

        man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

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        @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

        A very nice problem to have.

        Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

        man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

        I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

          The dirty cynical cheating #1 side going for a threepeat of World Cups?

          or the English?

          The old 'fights, injuries and the ref"?

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          @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

          My guess:

          I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
          Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
          Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
          French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
          Scots with us.
          PI's with us (I would hope).

          The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

          Gonna be fun.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

            Good enough for me to hedge.

            my betting account knows no heart

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            @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

            Good enough for me to hedge.

            my betting account knows no heart

            Come on, surely not??!!! You can't collect on an AB loss, that's just filthy behaviour!

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              Any oil on the team yet?

              Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

              We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                Any oil on the team yet?

                Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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                @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Any oil on the team yet?

                Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

                Just a change to the Bench with Todd injured but I guess it will be Tuipoluto?

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  Any oil on the team yet?

                  Where is the fella that had it right last week ?

                  We are all expecting no changes, but you never know

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                  @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  Any oil on the team yet?

                  Its teflon.

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                    Have they confirmed Cane is OK?

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                      Have they confirmed Cane is OK?

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                      @voodoo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      Have they confirmed Cane is OK?

                      He trained didn't he? It was Read they didn't want to risk in wet weather with a sore leg?

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                        @voodoo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        Have they confirmed Cane is OK?

                        He trained didn't he? It was Read they didn't want to risk in wet weather with a sore leg?

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                        @antipodean yeah true - wasn't sure if they'd commented on Cane's wrist, but if he trained then presumably it's sweet

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Ignore the clickbait title - it's the press conference and he's obviously relaxed, confident and enjoying it.

                          yep. And they should be, they are a good side in form. 50/50 chance of winning. And i reckon he'll have a trick or two up his sleeve as well.

                          Jesus, i can get $3.20 on England to win, that's massive overs.

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                          @mariner4life
                          Eddie trying, in vain, that we feel more pressure because we want a three-peat whereas the English have no pressure. Says it about three times through the press conference - nice try Eddie, but a weak. I expected better.

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                            @mariner4life
                            Eddie trying, in vain, that we feel more pressure because we want a three-peat whereas the English have no pressure. Says it about three times through the press conference - nice try Eddie, but a weak. I expected better.

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                            @Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @mariner4life
                            Eddie trying, in vain, that we feel more pressure because we want to a three-peat whereas the English have no pressure. Says it about three times through the press conference - nice try Eddie, but a weak. I expected better.

                            A bit like saying all the pressure is on Tom Brady and the Patriots to win a 7th SB because he's already won 6. Comical

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              No wonder Rieko isn't getting picked, Hansen can't even remember his name. 🤣

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                              @Bovidae

                              No wonder Rieko isn't getting picked, Hansen can't even remember his name. 🤣

                              Rico Gear might be a bolter though!

                              Lots of interesting stuff in there - and maybe a few thing Hansen wants Eddie to hear!

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                                Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

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                                • bayimportsB bayimports

                                  Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                  S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                  Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

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                                  @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                  S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                  Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                                  Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

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                                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                                    Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                    S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                    Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

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                                    @bayimports
                                    Ardie does not hit nearly as hard in defence as Cane.

                                    Might also slightly change the way we play because of Ardie not being able to be used on the blind.

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                                      @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                      S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                      Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                                      Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

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                                      @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                      S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                      Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                                      Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

                                      Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

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                                        If that is the thinking I would have put Ardie on the bench (again) and started Cane.

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                                          hasnt it always been if they are carrying a niggle, they start so you can control thier gametime better.

                                          My guess is, they have determined SB suits whatever plan they intend playing v England.

                                          SB probably carries a bit better than Cane does, so expect he's there for that? SB is a good defender, but doesnt make as many tackles and obviously doesnt hit as hard.

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