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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

    My guess:

    I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
    Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
    Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
    French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
    Scots with us.
    PI's with us (I would hope).

    The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

    Gonna be fun.

    Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.

    You've got to be kidding me.

    The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.

    I only want England to win because we may have a sniff if we make it through our SF.

    If it was a one-off or the Final, then NZ all day.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I only want England to win because we may have a sniff if we make it through our SF.

    That was my rationale. You have beaten England this year whilst 1953 was quite some time ago. Not to say it wouldn't happen but I think Wales odds would be better against England.

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      If either us or England win the RWC then I win big. In fact I win bigger (from a $ perspective anyway) if England win the world cup but really an All Blacks victory is what I am really hoping for.

      At least one of them will be in the final. So not as nervous as I was last weekend.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

        S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

        Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

        Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

        Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

        Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

        S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

        Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

        Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

        Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

        Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

        It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          hasnt it always been if they are carrying a niggle, they start so you can control thier gametime better.

          My guess is, they have determined SB suits whatever plan they intend playing v England.

          It does change the dynamic of the substitutions though because for Paddy T to come on then one of BBBR or Whitelock must be subbed, or both if SB moves to lock (VERY unlikely). It is possible that Ardie could end up at no.8 if Read's calf isn't 100% and SB remains at 6.

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          @Bovidae said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          hasnt it always been if they are carrying a niggle, they start so you can control thier gametime better.

          My guess is, they have determined SB suits whatever plan they intend playing v England.

          It does change the dynamic of the substitutions though because for Paddy T to come on then one of BBBR or Whitelock must be subbed, or both if SB moves to lock (VERY unlikely). It is possible that Ardie could end up at no.8 if Read's calf isn't 100% and SB remains at 6.

          If it is close Whitelock and Retallick will play 80. Paddy T is insurance. However we have seen Whitelock pack down on the flank before so if they want to replace Barrett there’s always that possibility.

          Cane is there for Savea and Read.

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            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

              S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

              Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

              Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

              Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

              Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

              It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

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              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

              S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

              Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

              Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

              Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

              Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

              It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

              To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron! 🙂

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

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                @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

                These huas read the fern!

                three times in the past week, about a couple of hours after a conversation on these threads, suddenly an article would appear.

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                • HoorooH Hooroo

                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

                  These huas read the fern!

                  three times in the past week, about a couple of hours after a conversation on these threads, suddenly an article would appear.

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                  @Hooroo Of course they do, where else would they get controversial and idiotic ideas, theories and analysis ( used loosely) from?

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

                    These huas read the fern!

                    three times in the past week, about a couple of hours after a conversation on these threads, suddenly an article would appear.

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                    @Hooroo if they aspire to be great journos they certainly should be reading the fern, such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances, this IS the place to get your analysis from, if you ignore the likes of us on here, then you may as well turn to clickbaiting!!

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Hooroo if they aspire to be great journos they certainly should be reading the fern, such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances, this IS the place to get your analysis from, if you ignore the likes of us on here, then you may as well turn to clickbaiting!!

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                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Hooroo if they aspire to be great journos they certainly should be reading the fern, such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances, this IS the place to get your analysis from, if you ignore the likes of us on here, then you may as well turn to clickbaiting!!

                      To be fair, it is much better in here now that a few of the morons are gone.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Hooroo if they aspire to be great journos they certainly should be reading the fern, such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances, this IS the place to get your analysis from, if you ignore the likes of us on here, then you may as well turn to clickbaiting!!

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                        @taniwharugby Diverse? I thought everyone here was a Polish person identifying as a female.

                        That team naming can’t come soon enough, but I think that’s going to be a bit boring too.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                          S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                          Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                          Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

                          Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

                          Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                          It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

                          To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron! 🙂

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                          @Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                          S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                          Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                          Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

                          Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

                          Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                          It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

                          To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron! 🙂

                          Don't forget Zac Guilford abandoning the Canes and running away to the inbreds.

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @Hooroo if they aspire to be great journos they certainly should be reading the fern, such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances, this IS the place to get your analysis from, if you ignore the likes of us on here, then you may as well turn to clickbaiting!!

                            To be fair, it is much better in here now that a few of the morons are gone.

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                            @Hooroo for every dickhead gone, there is one of the good guys gone too.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @Hooroo for every dickhead gone, there is one of the good guys gone too.

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                              @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Hooroo for every dickhead gone, there is one of the good guys gone too.

                              But not recently, just the dickheads that have gone

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Hooroo for every dickhead gone, there is one of the good guys gone too.

                                But not recently, just the dickheads that have gone

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                                @Hooroo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Hooroo for every dickhead gone, there is one of the good guys gone too.

                                But not recently, just the dickheads that have gone

                                Excuse me, I’m right bloody here!

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Hooroo Of course they do, where else would they get controversial and idiotic ideas, theories and analysis ( used loosely) from?

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                                  @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @Hooroo Of course they do, where else would they get controversial and idiotic ideas, theories and analysis ( used loosely) from?

                                  If they are reading this I hope they pass on our observations about Rattue to him

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                                    Will be interesting to see if Eddie thinks at all of team changes. I could see Kruis starting, which opens up some options for them at 6. Seems Ford is not trusted at highest level, which for me is too timid, as I think they need to take some risks.

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                                    @pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    Will be interesting to see if Eddie thinks at all of team changes. I could see Kruis starting, which opens up some options for them at 6. Seems Ford is not trusted at highest level, which for me is too timid, as I think they need to take some risks.

                                    See Stuff reporting Kruis and Ford may start: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116859878/all-blacks-v-england-eddie-jones-expected-to-bring-back-george-ford-for-semifinal !

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                                      @pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Will be interesting to see if Eddie thinks at all of team changes. I could see Kruis starting, which opens up some options for them at 6. Seems Ford is not trusted at highest level, which for me is too timid, as I think they need to take some risks.

                                      See Stuff reporting Kruis and Ford may start: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116859878/all-blacks-v-england-eddie-jones-expected-to-bring-back-george-ford-for-semifinal !

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                                      @pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      @pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Will be interesting to see if Eddie thinks at all of team changes. I could see Kruis starting, which opens up some options for them at 6. Seems Ford is not trusted at highest level, which for me is too timid, as I think they need to take some risks.

                                      See Stuff reporting Kruis and Ford may start: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116859878/all-blacks-v-england-eddie-jones-expected-to-bring-back-george-ford-for-semifinal !

                                      Seems Eddie reads the Fern?

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                        S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                        Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                                        Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

                                        Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

                                        Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                        It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

                                        To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron! 🙂

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                                        @Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

                                        S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

                                        Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

                                        Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

                                        Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

                                        Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                        It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

                                        To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron! 🙂

                                        Oh look, the little brother Crusaders are circling the wagons in support of big brother Crusaders. 😉

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                                          Who is the better 1st 5 Ford or Farrell? Is this purely to give them a second play maker?

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