RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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Ok this is my biggest issue with the SB over Cane.
All year we've had Cane playing as hard hitting defensive wall 7.
We've had Ardie playing as a loose running 8 while wearing 6.
We've had Read playing as a tight workhorse 6 while wearing 8.
This one selection changes the role of two players from what has worked successfully in the first half for most of this year.
I've got these out just in case:
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@Nepia Geez those are expensive knives, you are rich now that you have moved. Are you planning on re using them after you offer them to the Hawkes coach?
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Geez those are expensive knives, you are rich now that you have moved. Are you planning on re using them after you offer them to the Hawkes coach?
I'm happy with how our young mostly home grown Magpies team are travelling, win, lose or draw tomorrow ... and I fully expect the lose. So the knives will be fresh.
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@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Ok this is my biggest issue with the SB over Cane.
All year we've had Cane playing as hard hitting defensive wall 7.
We've had Ardie playing as a loose running 8 while wearing 6.
We've had Read playing as a tight workhorse 6 while wearing 8.
This one selection changes the role of two players from what has worked successfully in the first half for most of this year.
I've got these out just in case:
I look at the impact Red Barrett had coming on at half time and I thought we took another step up
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I am guessing Hansen is guessing that England will look to give us the ball more in the early stage and rely on their strong defence to force mistakes. Thus, choose Scott Barrett as the superior ball runner and bring on Cane later when England might be looking for more attack.
Scooter is in very good form and our lineout will be stronger.
Eddie will look to exploit his relative lack of pace on the blindside and our defense on the openside with Ardie won't be nearly as punishing.
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@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Geez those are expensive knives, you are rich now that you have moved. Are you planning on re using them after you offer them to the Hawkes coach?
I'm happy with how our young mostly home grown Magpies team are travelling, win, lose or draw tomorrow ... and I fully expect the lose. So the knives will be fresh.
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I am guessing Hansen is guessing that England will look to give us the ball more in the early stage and rely on their strong defence to force mistakes. Thus, choose Scott Barrett as the superior ball runner and bring on Cane later when England might be looking for more attack.
Scooter is in very good form and our lineout will be stronger.
Eddie will look to exploit his relative lack of pace on the blindside and our defense on the openside with Ardie won't be nearly as punishing.
@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I am guessing Hansen is guessing that England will look to give us the ball more. Thus, choose Scott Barrett as the superior ball runner and bring on Cane later.
Yep thats what I think and SB is a better carrier than Cane, and SB is no slouch defending either (although not as dominant as Cane who is also usually one of our top tacklers) as long as he keeps his shoulder away from peoples heads...
#TTP
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@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
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@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......
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@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......
@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......
As night follows day, it’s just what should happen in life.
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Great analysis of Irish game and what we shall see in the English game in terms of pod system.
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I also think losing Todd ( unless that is a smokescreen ) had a bit to do with it ,
Gives the bench more balance ,
2 7s starting with 2 bigger forwards on the bench wouldn’t be right
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I also think losing Todd ( unless that is a smokescreen ) had a bit to do with it ,
Gives the bench more balance ,
2 7s starting with 2 bigger forwards on the bench wouldn’t be right
If that is true, you wouldn't be having Todd on the bench against SA either. SB at 6 is more appropriate against the Bok loosies, as he did in Albany.
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@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......
@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,
I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case
In real life I have Ikea knives.
I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.
And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......
Not true, I'd still have an issue with it if they replaced him with the Highlander Frizell.
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@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):
- Joe Moody (44)
- Codie Taylor (49)
Taylor has more caps than Moody?
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):
- Joe Moody (44)
- Codie Taylor (49)
Taylor has more caps than Moody?
Ask @ACT-Crusader, he's the selector when it comes to those guys.
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Now the team is named, is there any rule stopping the ABs from switching Cane and Barrett at the last minute?
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Great analysis of Irish game and what we shall see in the English game in terms of pod system.
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I think picking Scott Barrett is primarily around the lineout. With Barrett there we will have 4 frontline defensive lineout options and 5 options on our own ball (with Savea added in). I assume a big part of the plan is to kick the ball out and try to steal lineout ball. That was a big part of our game in 2018. Also I would have thought Barrett will be better at defending the lineout maul than Cane.
We don't lose anything on defence with Barrett, nor do we lose much of Cane's impact at the breakdown. Cane will come on fresh in the second half and can go nuts for 30 minutes on defence if required.
I think it's a move specifically to address England's big forwards. If we make it to the final, I expect Cane to start again.
