RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

Frank

I am guessing Hansen is guessing that England will look to give us the ball more in the early stage and rely on their strong defence to force mistakes. Thus, choose Scott Barrett as the superior ball runner and bring on Cane later when England might be looking for more attack.

Scooter is in very good form and our lineout will be stronger.

Eddie will look to exploit his relative lack of pace on the blindside and our defense on the openside with Ardie won't be nearly as punishing.

bayimports

@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,

I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case

Bovidae

We wait for some comments by Hansen on the reasons behind Barrett's selection ahead of Cane.

Kind of ironic that England will likely be playing 2 no.7s so there will be pressure at the breakdown.

taniwharugby

@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

I am guessing Hansen is guessing that England will look to give us the ball more. Thus, choose Scott Barrett as the superior ball runner and bring on Cane later.

Yep thats what I think and SB is a better carrier than Cane, and SB is no slouch defending either (although not as dominant as Cane who is also usually one of our top tacklers) as long as he keeps his shoulder away from peoples heads...

#TTP

booboo

@Nevorian said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia and some of this ?

Is it dry?

Nepia

@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,

I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case

In real life I have Ikea knives.

I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.

kiwiinmelb

I also think losing Todd ( unless that is a smokescreen ) had a bit to do with it ,

Gives the bench more balance ,

2 7s starting with 2 bigger forwards on the bench wouldn’t be right

Frank

@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,

I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case

In real life I have Ikea knives.

I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.

And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......

ACT Crusader

@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,

I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case

In real life I have Ikea knives.

I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.

And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......

As night follows day, it’s just what should happen in life.

Frank

Great analysis of Irish game and what we shall see in the English game in terms of pod system.

https://vimeo.com/368310721

Bovidae

@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

I also think losing Todd ( unless that is a smokescreen ) had a bit to do with it ,

Gives the bench more balance ,

2 7s starting with 2 bigger forwards on the bench wouldn’t be right

If that is true, you wouldn't be having Todd on the bench against SA either. SB at 6 is more appropriate against the Bok loosies, as he did in Albany.

Nepia

@Frank said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia Good luck either way..always just fun banter here,

I will also save my cheaper knives for the selection committee, just in case

In real life I have Ikea knives.

I don't have a problem with Barrett as a player, assuming the dipshit doesn't get red carded, just the changing of the style of the trio in the lead up to a big game.

And, of course, that the player replaced is a Chief and his replacement is a Crusader......

Not true, I'd still have an issue with it if they replaced him with the Highlander Frizell.

Crucial

@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

Joe Moody (44)

Codie Taylor (49)

Taylor has more caps than Moody?

Ask @ACT-Crusader, he's the selector when it comes to those guys.

taniwharugby

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116777266/all-blacks-v-england-forget-twickenham-in-2018-fresh-abs-are-a-different-animal

Crazy Horse

Now the team is named, is there any rule stopping the ABs from switching Cane and Barrett at the last minute?

Bones

@Frank "hits him so hard you'd think he's in a relationship with him"

I wee'd a little.

Damo

I think picking Scott Barrett is primarily around the lineout. With Barrett there we will have 4 frontline defensive lineout options and 5 options on our own ball (with Savea added in). I assume a big part of the plan is to kick the ball out and try to steal lineout ball. That was a big part of our game in 2018. Also I would have thought Barrett will be better at defending the lineout maul than Cane.

We don't lose anything on defence with Barrett, nor do we lose much of Cane's impact at the breakdown. Cane will come on fresh in the second half and can go nuts for 30 minutes on defence if required.

I think it's a move specifically to address England's big forwards. If we make it to the final, I expect Cane to start again.

voodoo

I'm with you here, I've said the same (either here or elsewhere):

@Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

I think picking Scott Barrett is primarily around the lineout. With Barrett there we will have 4 frontline defensive lineout options

But I'm so not with you here:

@Damo said

We don't lose anything on defence with Barrett, nor do we lose much of Cane's impact at the breakdown. Cane will come on fresh in the second half and can go nuts for 30 minutes on defence if required.

I think Cane is our hardest hitter by a long shot. His physicality in the tackle and at the breakdown is just extraordinary.

Billy Tell

@Toddy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Who is the better 1st 5 Ford or Farrell? Is this purely to give them a second play maker?

Not sure but I thought Slade was poor last week, so maybe it’s more to do with that

Billy Tell

@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

Joe Moody (44)

Codie Taylor (49)

Nepo Laulala (24)

Brodie Retallick (79)

Samuel Whitelock (116)

Scott Barrett (34)

Ardie Savea (43)

Kieran Read - captain (125)

Aaron Smith (90)

Richie Mo’unga (15)

George Bridge (8)

Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

Jack Goodhue (12)

Sevu Reece (6)

Beauden Barrett (81)

Dane Coles (67)

Ofa Tuungafasi (34)

Angus Ta'avao (12)

Patrick Tuipulotu (28)

Sam Cane (66)

T J Perenara (63)

Sonny Bill Williams (56)

Jordie Barrett (15)

As opposed to age in brackets...?

The Silver Fern

RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)