RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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Imagine the Boks winning tomorrow and then England winning the final - beating Australia, New Zealand and South Africa in the finals, we'd never hear the end of it!
@Tordah said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Imagine the Boks winning tomorrow and then England winning the final - beating Australia, New Zealand and South Africa in the finals, we'd never hear the end of it!
And Argentina
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@Jonty-lean Because the English were standing in our backline
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Jonty-lean Because the English were standing in our backline
Yeah, but we figured out how to nullify that by delaying the pass in midfield....after 70 minutes. An experienced combination (Smith/Nonu) would have countered that earlier.
Don't get me wrong, Goodhue and ALB are great, but we've buggered about with the midfield since 2015 and it showed tonight.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
The reality is , the scoreboard doesn’t reflect the dominance , it probably saves us from the embarrassment it could have been
Agreed - easily a thirty point drubbing.
@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
The reality is , the scoreboard doesn’t reflect the dominance , it probably saves us from the embarrassment it could have been
Agreed - easily a thirty point drubbing.
They were clearly miles the better team but that was more as a result of closing the ABs down rather than creating all that many scoring opportunities (even allowing for two tries correctly, disallowed). To say it should have been a thirty point drubbing is very subjective when they never really looked like scoring that many points.
Having said that I actually agree that they probably were about thirty points better when all is said and done but they weren't good enough to make it show on the scoreboard.
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We didnt lose because of our backs. Our forwards got monstered. In the scrums, in the lineouts and at the breakdowns.
This is the most comprehensive defeat my middle age brain can remember
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Game was lost up front.
We picked a team to dominate the lineouts and instead England picked us off repeatedly and we barely pressured them - won one I think.
As it turned out, we'd picked a bench designed to accelerate momentum, rather than shift it when we were going backwards. I thought subbing Goodhue and Bridge were silly decisions, when they were among our best players - Goodhue especially was excellent. None of our subs looked like turning the game - Coles was decent enough.
Not good enough. Congratulations England.
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@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
But, but, but, he scored 4 tries against Tonga! Surely he was our best winger!
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@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.
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We didnt lose because of our backs. Our forwards got monstered. In the scrums, in the lineouts and at the breakdowns.
This is the most comprehensive defeat my middle age brain can remember
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
This is the most comprehensive defeat my middle age brain can remember
This.
We were rabbits in headlights when we should have taken a deep breath, absorbed the pressure and built control.
There were times when we looked like doing just that - and then gave away stupid penalties, kicks or turn-overs.
Hate to say it, but Read ain't a good captain under pressure.
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@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Yes but he’s been in poor form all year. Pity because on form he’s great.
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@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.
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@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Yes but he’s been in poor form all year. Pity because on form he’s great.
@Billy-Tell Excellent in Super Rugby until the Blues dipped. Scored a try in Perth then made a scapegoat for it.
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@Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.
He’ll be an ok fullback one day
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Comiserations to all you kiwis, your team let you down, but in fairness they never gave up. But that performance from England would have beaten anyone. Relentless.
@Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Comiserations to all you kiwis, your team let you down, but in fairness they never gave up. But that performance from England would have beaten anyone. Relentless.
Haven't seen an ABs team beaten up for 80 minutes like that since the 1991 Semi Final.
A great one-off? Part of a fantastic RWC campaign by Eddie and co? Or the start of an era of England dominance?
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@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.
@Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?
Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.
Well that's something at least. what were moody, Taylor, laulala, retallick, whitelock, Barrett, savea and read good at?
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Hanson and co got their selection badly wrong. Reece is just too small. Bridge was ordinary. With Barrett as well the back three was unbalanced. So if Reece is on 1 wing (I just don't rate him though) select a power winger on the other one
It was a poorly selected team and the England coaches totally and utterly out-coached and out-selected Hanson and co
@Winger don’t have too many problems with backs. Apart from kicking game which is tactical. The forwards were average tonight. No hard hitting and ruck presence without Cane. Ardie is a runner. The ABs were cleaned out at lineouts and beaten up by energy of English who outlasted them.
If you are referring to Reiko he has been full of mistakes and really has let the selectors down.
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Kearns, Barnes and the Foxtel panel are chuffed as hell. piston wristed gibbons.
@allblackfan2 Its going to get very painful
