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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • mantissanetM mantissanet

    @ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....

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    antipodean
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    @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....

    I'll say this - Itoje finally stepped up in my eyes to be the player he's long been touted to be. He was superb. So were the two young flankers.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....

      I'll say this - Itoje finally stepped up in my eyes to be the player he's long been touted to be. He was superb. So were the two young flankers.

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      mantissanet
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      #1759

      @antipodean Itoje no question. Brodie remains top of the pile though for myself globally. Sublime player. Possibly too green post injury. Their loosies were great considering Ardie and Cane when he was on just had so little actual effect.

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      • mantissanetM mantissanet

        @ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....

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        #1760

        @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest?

        On today's performance there wouldn't have been an All Black at all, but I get your point England played well as a team.

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest?

          On today's performance there wouldn't have been an All Black at all, but I get your point England played well as a team.

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          @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

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          • mantissanetM mantissanet

            @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

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            @mantissanet Not sure that Goodhue is THAT good, but yes up there - as for the others - second doesn't cut it.

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              @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

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                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @mantissanet Not sure that Goodhue is THAT good, but yes up there - as for the others - second doesn't cut it.

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                  @Snowy Better 13 than him at the mo. Really interested.... Such a different jersey to 12 and he has owned it through too many victories in a structure I would never have messed with if I was Hansen to think otherwise. Long conversation about 13 vs 12 but he has been ridiculously solid for ages despite that mullet 😉

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                    Drinking a lot of beer here in SA too. My heart was sold on an AB Bok final. I’m bleak. Commiserations. Heartfelt.

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                      Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                      Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

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                      @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                      Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                      Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                      I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

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                        Super disappointed in our performance. But not super surprised. England have been building nicely for 2 years now and would have been targeting this match. We fell into the old trap of trying to play their game. Hell we even picked a team to combat theirs. A confident team picks their team to play their way.

                        The start was absolutely turgid. You won't see a softer try then that. Even school boys would be ashamed of that defence. When that didn't trigger any sort of response Perth 2.0 was on the cards. Our defense was the most passive I have seen.

                        With Owens as the ref is crazy how few rucks we contested. And for all this red head blue head stuff. When the pressure came on our discipline turned to shit.

                        My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                        I know the All Blacks like leaders all over the park. But this two play makers thing annoys me. You need someone running the cutter. Some one to say right I'm changing things. I don't see how this works with 2 10s on the park.

                        Anyway it's only a game we had a great run. I can't say I have any strong feelings towards any of the teams still in. So good luck to them all.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                          Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                          Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                          I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

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                          Snowy
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                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                          Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                          Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                          I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

                          Sorry, completely whooshed?

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                              Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                              Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                              I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

                              Sorry, completely whooshed?

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                              Bones
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                              @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                              Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                              Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                              I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

                              Sorry, completely whooshed?

                              It was nice knowing Bonesetta.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

                                Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

                                Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

                                I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

                                Sorry, completely whooshed?

                                It was nice knowing Bonesetta.

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                                Snowy
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1772

                                @Bones Right.
                                Driving gloves can be nice.

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                                • mantissanetM mantissanet

                                  @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  #1773

                                  @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                  @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

                                  Let's see how Jonathan Davies goes tomorrow

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                                  • M mooshld

                                    Super disappointed in our performance. But not super surprised. England have been building nicely for 2 years now and would have been targeting this match. We fell into the old trap of trying to play their game. Hell we even picked a team to combat theirs. A confident team picks their team to play their way.

                                    The start was absolutely turgid. You won't see a softer try then that. Even school boys would be ashamed of that defence. When that didn't trigger any sort of response Perth 2.0 was on the cards. Our defense was the most passive I have seen.

                                    With Owens as the ref is crazy how few rucks we contested. And for all this red head blue head stuff. When the pressure came on our discipline turned to shit.

                                    My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                                    I know the All Blacks like leaders all over the park. But this two play makers thing annoys me. You need someone running the cutter. Some one to say right I'm changing things. I don't see how this works with 2 10s on the park.

                                    Anyway it's only a game we had a great run. I can't say I have any strong feelings towards any of the teams still in. So good luck to them all.

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                                    MiketheSnow
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                                    @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                                    Agreed.

                                    But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

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                                      @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Who the fuck put this highlights package together?

                                      The stare down of the Haka was important but over a minute of a 4.30 highlight instead of the lead up to the English try.

                                      You had one job.

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                                        It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

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                                          @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

                                          Sadly some of us will remember it, as well as trying to blank it out.

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