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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #1786

    Eddie's press conference:

    Interesting that he talks about preparing for this game for two and a half years.

    I don't think Hansen and co. realised how much the England forwards had improved and what a threat they would be.

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        It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

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        • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

          It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

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          @Paekakboyz said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

          It's just an illusion...

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            Well, I watched the game at home and was amazed at the England performance. I thought we had a chance but... Even though we were pretty dominant more or less throughout the game and it was ours to lose almost, there was always in the back of my mind that you just cannot trust a Kiwi to know when to say enough is enough. Having said that I felt reasonably comfortable with four minutes to go and two scores needed but even then... hmmm.

            I didn't watch it at the pub as a 9.00 am kick off would have meant ruining the rest of the day but at around 11.40 I got a call from a mate. "I'm down at the Royal Oak and I need someone to talk rugby to. I can't go home and talk to her". So the rest of the day has been washout really. No complaints though.

            Thanks to all who have posted congratulations and compliments on our performance. That takes a bit of doing, especially after the success you've had.

            No where's that bottle of red?

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              Well, I watched the game at home and was amazed at the England performance. I thought we had a chance but... Even though we were pretty dominant more or less throughout the game and it was ours to lose almost, there was always in the back of my mind that you just cannot trust a Kiwi to know when to say enough is enough. Having said that I felt reasonably comfortable with four minutes to go and two scores needed but even then... hmmm.

              I didn't watch it at the pub as a 9.00 am kick off would have meant ruining the rest of the day but at around 11.40 I got a call from a mate. "I'm down at the Royal Oak and I need someone to talk rugby to. I can't go home and talk to her". So the rest of the day has been washout really. No complaints though.

              Thanks to all who have posted congratulations and compliments on our performance. That takes a bit of doing, especially after the success you've had.

              No where's that bottle of red?

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              @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

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                @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

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                @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

                My dear fellow wine IS red. It's only white wine that's white.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

                  My dear fellow wine IS red. It's only white wine that's white.

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                  @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

                  My dear fellow wine IS red. It's only white wine that's white.

                  Astounding arrogance.

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                    When you look at our results the last few years , it isnt that surprising really I guess , almost a trend

                    Ireland twice, an out of jail win against England, a loss and a draw against the Lions , South Africa , Perth , and now this ,

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                      The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                      Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

                      Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

                      Yeah I have to say I was getting angry pretty early in the game thinking of Shags words about wanting height and us being so ineffectual at the lineout.

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                      @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                      The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                      Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

                      Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

                      Yeah I have to say I was getting angry pretty early in the game thinking of Shags words about wanting height and us being so ineffectual at the lineout.

                      I thought Shag had made some outstanding selections in the past months but dropping Cane and having Joedie on the bench instead of Bender were two shockers imho. That said congrats to England who were terrific.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Early signs not good.

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                        @sparky great call

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                          Five moments that cost the ABs the World Cup Semi Final:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116954125/all-blacks-v-england-five-moments-that-cost-new-zealand-the-world-cup-semifinal

                          Very good piece.

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                            Haaaaa

                            After Whitelock's hand made contact with Farrell's head to get him out of the ruck, TJ Perenara asked Farrell if he was playing in the Premier League, rather than the Rugby World Cup semifinal.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Five moments that cost the ABs the World Cup Semi Final:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116954125/all-blacks-v-england-five-moments-that-cost-new-zealand-the-world-cup-semifinal

                              Very good piece.

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                              @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              Five moments that cost the ABs the World Cup Semi Final:

                              Very good piece.

                              Surprisingly good! I'm cautious of reading any media for a day or three... but that was pretty balanced

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                                The Whitelock thing, I completely missed him hitting him in the face, it just looked like he pushed him?

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                                  Can we get a welfare check on @mariner4life?

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    @Billy-Tell He's so much better than Bridge. When has that clown beaten a defender with pace in this tournament?

                                    Bridge just gets to the tackle fast, no evasion at all. Good at tacking high balls, and chasing kicks. Nothing else.

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                                    @Kirwan Bridge is also good at running good lines. Reiko has X factor though and he wouldn’t have been bundled into touch as easy as Reece or Bridge. Can’t blame these guys though and Rieko lost favor. Lost in in the forwards and the English defense everywhere was immense.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      The Whitelock thing, I completely missed him hitting him in the face, it just looked like he pushed him?

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                                      @Bones He kind of palmed him out of the way. No much really. It was karma for his hand in the ruck at the end of the super rugby final.

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                                        Eddie Jones pissed on our powder. Turns out wet powder is the bad kind. Sad.

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @Kirwan Bridge is also good at running good lines. Reiko has X factor though and he wouldn’t have been bundled into touch as easy as Reece or Bridge. Can’t blame these guys though and Rieko lost favor. Lost in in the forwards and the English defense everywhere was immense.

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                                          @broughie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Kirwan Bridge is also good at running good lines. Reiko has X factor though and he wouldn’t have been bundled into touch as easy as Reece or Bridge. Can’t blame these guys though and Rieko lost favor. Lost in in the forwards and the English defense everywhere was immense.

                                          Huh? Have you not been watching Rieko finding new ways to die with the ball? The only way he wouldn't have been bundled out is because he dropped it.

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