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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?

    Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.

    Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.

    I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.

    Sorry, completely whooshed?

    It was nice knowing Bonesetta.

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    @Bones Right.
    Driving gloves can be nice.

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    • mantissanetM mantissanet

      @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

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      @mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high 😉

      Let's see how Jonathan Davies goes tomorrow

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      • M mooshld

        Super disappointed in our performance. But not super surprised. England have been building nicely for 2 years now and would have been targeting this match. We fell into the old trap of trying to play their game. Hell we even picked a team to combat theirs. A confident team picks their team to play their way.

        The start was absolutely turgid. You won't see a softer try then that. Even school boys would be ashamed of that defence. When that didn't trigger any sort of response Perth 2.0 was on the cards. Our defense was the most passive I have seen.

        With Owens as the ref is crazy how few rucks we contested. And for all this red head blue head stuff. When the pressure came on our discipline turned to shit.

        My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

        I know the All Blacks like leaders all over the park. But this two play makers thing annoys me. You need someone running the cutter. Some one to say right I'm changing things. I don't see how this works with 2 10s on the park.

        Anyway it's only a game we had a great run. I can't say I have any strong feelings towards any of the teams still in. So good luck to them all.

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        @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

        Agreed.

        But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

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        • sparkyS sparky

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          @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          Who the fuck put this highlights package together?

          The stare down of the Haka was important but over a minute of a 4.30 highlight instead of the lead up to the English try.

          You had one job.

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            It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

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              @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              It was Kieran Read's birthday today, certain one he will try to forget.

              Sadly some of us will remember it, as well as trying to blank it out.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                Agreed.

                But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

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                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                Agreed.

                But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

                It's not about that though. It's just as a fan it rubs you wrong when you think of the inconsistency.

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                • M mooshld

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                  Agreed.

                  But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

                  It's not about that though. It's just as a fan it rubs you wrong when you think of the inconsistency.

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                  @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @mooshld said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.

                  Agreed.

                  But even if he'd gone perfect he couldn't ref the final 😉

                  It's not about that though. It's just as a fan it rubs you wrong when you think of the inconsistency.

                  I thought it was a YC and was being sarcastic about no final.

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                    https://twitter.com/TheACCnz/status/1188002850468577280?s=19

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                      I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

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                        @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                        The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                        Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                          The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                          Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

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                          @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                          The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                          Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

                          Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                            The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                            Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

                            Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

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                            @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

                            The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

                            Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

                            Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

                            Yeah I have to say I was getting angry pretty early in the game thinking of Shags words about wanting height and us being so ineffectual at the lineout.

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                              I was so simple in my wanting cathartic release.
                              I walked home from the stadium through deserted dodgy areas, no mugging.
                              I went to a standing bar, got thoroughly re-drunk, yelling “fuck” at the ceiling once in a while. Much to the amusement of locals.
                              Then I went down to the riverside with a couple of drinks and cigarettes, found a gang of teenagers hanging out causing trouble. Sat down close to them, and when I got eye contact... gestured to the litter-mess they'd caused. They cleaned their shit up, and left.
                              What do I need to do to get beaten up in this country? I just want my body to feel like my mind does.

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                                #1786

                                Eddie's press conference:

                                Interesting that he talks about preparing for this game for two and a half years.

                                I don't think Hansen and co. realised how much the England forwards had improved and what a threat they would be.

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                                    It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

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                                    • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                      It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

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                                      @Paekakboyz said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

                                      It's just an illusion...

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                                        Well, I watched the game at home and was amazed at the England performance. I thought we had a chance but... Even though we were pretty dominant more or less throughout the game and it was ours to lose almost, there was always in the back of my mind that you just cannot trust a Kiwi to know when to say enough is enough. Having said that I felt reasonably comfortable with four minutes to go and two scores needed but even then... hmmm.

                                        I didn't watch it at the pub as a 9.00 am kick off would have meant ruining the rest of the day but at around 11.40 I got a call from a mate. "I'm down at the Royal Oak and I need someone to talk rugby to. I can't go home and talk to her". So the rest of the day has been washout really. No complaints though.

                                        Thanks to all who have posted congratulations and compliments on our performance. That takes a bit of doing, especially after the success you've had.

                                        No where's that bottle of red?

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                                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                          Well, I watched the game at home and was amazed at the England performance. I thought we had a chance but... Even though we were pretty dominant more or less throughout the game and it was ours to lose almost, there was always in the back of my mind that you just cannot trust a Kiwi to know when to say enough is enough. Having said that I felt reasonably comfortable with four minutes to go and two scores needed but even then... hmmm.

                                          I didn't watch it at the pub as a 9.00 am kick off would have meant ruining the rest of the day but at around 11.40 I got a call from a mate. "I'm down at the Royal Oak and I need someone to talk rugby to. I can't go home and talk to her". So the rest of the day has been washout really. No complaints though.

                                          Thanks to all who have posted congratulations and compliments on our performance. That takes a bit of doing, especially after the success you've had.

                                          No where's that bottle of red?

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                                          @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

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