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RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Key Facts

    • The All Blacks and Wales have played each other 34 times, with 31 wins to the All Blacks and three to Wales. Friday's bronze final will be the fourth time the two teams have meet at the Rugby World Cup. They played in the semifinal of the 1987 RWC and in pool play in 1995 and 2003.

    • All Blacks coach Steve Hansen was the Wales coach at the 2003 tournament and is in the unique position of having coached both the All Blacks and Wales against each other at a Rugby World Cup.

    • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

    • Prop Angus Ta'avao will have played every test this year for the All Blacks - 11 in total.

    • Beauden Barrett has scored 644 points in tests for the All Blacks and is fourth on the all-time scoring list, just one point behind Grant Fox in third place. Andrew Mehrtens is second on 967 points and Dan Carter leads the list on 1,598.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Key Facts

      • The All Blacks and Wales have played each other 34 times, with 31 wins to the All Blacks and three to Wales. Friday's bronze final will be the fourth time the two teams have meet at the Rugby World Cup. They played in the semifinal of the 1987 RWC and in pool play in 1995 and 2003.

      • All Blacks coach Steve Hansen was the Wales coach at the 2003 tournament and is in the unique position of having coached both the All Blacks and Wales against each other at a Rugby World Cup.

      • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

      • Prop Angus Ta'avao will have played every test this year for the All Blacks - 11 in total.

      • Beauden Barrett has scored 644 points in tests for the All Blacks and is fourth on the all-time scoring list, just one point behind Grant Fox in third place. Andrew Mehrtens is second on 967 points and Dan Carter leads the list on 1,598.

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      @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

      • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

      wonder what his win % is in comparison to McCaw? Assume has to be less.

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      • M Machpants

        The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

        1. Joe Moody (44)

        2. Dane Coles (68)

        3. Nepo Laulala (24)

        4. Brodie Retallick (80)

        5. Scott Barrett (35)

        6. Shannon Frizell (8)

        7. Sam Cane (67)

        8. Kieran Read - captain (126)

        9. Aaron Smith (91)

        10. Richie Mo’unga (16)

        11. Rieko Ioane (28)

        12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)

        13. Ryan Crotty (47)

        14. Ben Smith (83)

        15. Beauden Barrett (82)

        16. Liam Coltman (7)

        17. Atu Moli (7)

        18. Angus Ta'avao (13)

        19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)

        20. Matt Todd (24)

        21. Brad Weber (4)

        22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

        23. Jordie Barrett (16)

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        @Machpants said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

        The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

        1. Joe Moody (44)

        2. Dane Coles (68)

        3. Nepo Laulala (24)

        4. Brodie Retallick (80)

        5. Scott Barrett (35)

        6. Shannon Frizell (8)

        7. Sam Cane (67)

        8. Kieran Read - captain (126)

        9. Aaron Smith (91)

        10. Richie Mo’unga (16)

        11. Rieko Ioane (28)

        12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)

        13. Ryan Crotty (47)

        14. Ben Smith (83)

        15. Beauden Barrett (82)

        16. Liam Coltman (7)

        17. Atu Moli (7)

        18. Angus Ta'avao (13)

        19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)

        20. Matt Todd (24)

        21. Brad Weber (4)

        22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

        23. Jordie Barrett (16)

        Like this. Thought Nugget might get a rest, but that's a serious backline and will be an interesting comparison with Saturday.

        Forwards exactly as I expected.

        ALB and Jordie make sense on bench as cover so many eventualities.

        And fans everywhere, including many English, want to see ABs show some Formula One rugby (BUT the right to go wide STILL has to be EARNED!!!!).

        I'll be there...

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

          wonder what his win % is in comparison to McCaw? Assume has to be less.

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          @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

          wonder what his win % is in comparison to McCaw? Assume has to be less.

          Read has lost 7 tests and drawn 1. He won his first 19 tests as captain, which is a record.

          The most amazing fact is that DC has nearly as many points as the 2nd and 3rd players combined.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

            wonder what his win % is in comparison to McCaw? Assume has to be less.

            Read has lost 7 tests and drawn 1. He won his first 19 tests as captain, which is a record.

            The most amazing fact is that DC has nearly as many points as the 2nd and 3rd players combined.

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            @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            • Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.

            wonder what his win % is in comparison to McCaw? Assume has to be less.

            Read has lost 7 tests and drawn 1. He won his first 19 tests as captain, which is a record.

            The most amazing fact is that DC has nearly as many points as the 2nd and 3rd players combined.

            84% win. Not too shoddy!

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              McCaw captained the ABs 111 times and lost 11 (including the Baabaas) and drew 2.

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                I'm still bitter.

                Fuck Reads captaincy. Percentages mean zilch when he turns to water in the big game.

                These All Blacks are like the dog that shit on the carpet - won't be coming inside again for about 6 months!

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                  #123

                  Gats has made 9 changes.

                  Hallam Amos, Owen Lane, Jonathan Davies, Owen Watkin, Josh Adams, Rhys Patchell, Tomos Williams, Ross Moriarty, James Davies, Justin Tipuric, Alun Wyn Jones (c), Adam Beard, Dillon Lewis, Ken Owens, Nicky Smith.

                  Reserves: Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Wyn Jones, Jake Ball, Aaron Shingler, Gareth Davies, Dan Biggar, Hadleigh Parkes.

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                    Fuck yeah. Go squaddies!

                    Play with a bit of freedom.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.

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                      @antipodean said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.

                      No chicken counting

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @Cyclops 2003?

                        You're right! Panic averted.

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                        @Cyclops said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @Cyclops 2003?

                        You're right! Panic averted.

                        We're on a roll. One in a row. Looking to make it two.

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                          Tough work getting interested ,

                          I will watch it though ,

                          I remember not watching one , then finding out later we lost to south africa , was it 99 ?

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                          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                            Tough work getting interested ,

                            I will watch it though ,

                            I remember not watching one , then finding out later we lost to south africa , was it 99 ?

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            Tough work getting interested ,

                            I will watch it though ,

                            I remember not watching one , then finding out later we lost to south africa , was it 99 ?

                            I watched that on a barge on the Thames surrounded by Saffas. Good times.

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                            • M Machpants

                              The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

                              1. Joe Moody (44)

                              2. Dane Coles (68)

                              3. Nepo Laulala (24)

                              4. Brodie Retallick (80)

                              5. Scott Barrett (35)

                              6. Shannon Frizell (8)

                              7. Sam Cane (67)

                              8. Kieran Read - captain (126)

                              9. Aaron Smith (91)

                              10. Richie Mo’unga (16)

                              11. Rieko Ioane (28)

                              12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)

                              13. Ryan Crotty (47)

                              14. Ben Smith (83)

                              15. Beauden Barrett (82)

                              16. Liam Coltman (7)

                              17. Atu Moli (7)

                              18. Angus Ta'avao (13)

                              19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)

                              20. Matt Todd (24)

                              21. Brad Weber (4)

                              22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

                              23. Jordie Barrett (16)

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                              @Machpants said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                              The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

                              1. Joe Moody (44)

                              2. Dane Coles (68)

                              3. Nepo Laulala (24)

                              4. Brodie Retallick (80)

                              5. Scott Barrett (35)

                              6. Shannon Frizell (8)

                              7. Sam Cane (67)

                              8. Kieran Read - captain (126)

                              9. Aaron Smith (91)

                              10. Richie Mo’unga (16)

                              11. Rieko Ioane (28)

                              12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)

                              13. Ryan Crotty (47)

                              14. Ben Smith (83)

                              15. Beauden Barrett (82)

                              16. Liam Coltman (7)

                              17. Atu Moli (7)

                              18. Angus Ta'avao (13)

                              19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)

                              20. Matt Todd (24)

                              21. Brad Weber (4)

                              22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

                              23. Jordie Barrett (16)

                              Last All Blacks game for Kieran Read, SBW, Ryan Crotty, BFA and Matt Todd. Brodie's last All Blacks game for a while.

                              All great servants of the Black Jersey.

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                                #130

                                Looks like it'll be fast and loose.

                                NZ lots - lot less Wales

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  Looks like it'll be fast and loose.

                                  NZ lots - lot less Wales

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                                  @MiketheSnow Pretty sad Wales has lost some top players to injury 😞 We've just lost 2 loosies - Ardie and Luke Jacobsen before the games even started

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    Tough work getting interested ,

                                    I will watch it though ,

                                    I remember not watching one , then finding out later we lost to south africa , was it 99 ?

                                    I watched that on a barge on the Thames surrounded by Saffas. Good times.

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                                    @Kirwan I was away in Spain, so was easy to not watch.

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                                      Based on the team changes for the ABs I have decided to watch this game now. I'm particularly interested in how Ioane and BFA go.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Based on the team changes for the ABs I have decided to watch this game now. I'm particularly interested in how Ioane and BFA go.

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                                        @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        Based on the team changes for the ABs I have decided to watch this game now. I'm particularly interested in how Ioane and BFA go.

                                        I’m going to throw it out there that most of you who said you wouldn’t watch the game still will. You are all All Black supporters regardless.

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                                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                                          @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          Based on the team changes for the ABs I have decided to watch this game now. I'm particularly interested in how Ioane and BFA go.

                                          I’m going to throw it out there that most of you who said you wouldn’t watch the game still will. You are all All Black supporters regardless.

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                                          @bayimports said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          I’m going to throw it out there that most of you who said you wouldn’t watch the game still will. You are all All Black supporters regardless.

                                          :man_raising_hand: I will sheepishly put my hand up to be in that camp

                                          Can't miss Read & BFA's (and the others) last games.
                                          Also very keen to see how Rieko goes.

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