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RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

    Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

    I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

    Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

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    @Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

    Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

    I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

    Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

    Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?

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      @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

      @Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?

      I don't know, I haven't watched any press conferences.

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        #98

        My 15:
        Moody, Coles, Laulala
        Whitelock, SB
        Frizzel, Read, Cane
        Smith, Mounga
        ALB, Goodhue
        Ioane, BB, BFA

        Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

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        • chimoausC chimoaus

          @Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

          Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

          I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

          Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

          Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.

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          @chimoaus I'd be starting Moody and Laulala - Todd for Frizell (assuming Ardie is injured) and Aaron Smith. Ben Smith and possibly one of the midfielders on the bench.

          Worst possible farewell would be to lose this game.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            My 15:
            Moody, Coles, Laulala
            Whitelock, SB
            Frizzel, Read, Cane
            Smith, Mounga
            ALB, Goodhue
            Ioane, BB, BFA

            Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            My 15:
            Moody, Coles, Laulala
            Whitelock, SB
            Frizzel, Read, Cane
            Smith, Mounga
            ALB, Goodhue
            Ioane, BB, BFA

            Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

            With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

              My 15:
              Moody, Coles, Laulala
              Whitelock, SB
              Frizzel, Read, Cane
              Smith, Mounga
              ALB, Goodhue
              Ioane, BB, BFA

              Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

              With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts

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              @Hooroo he probably will, thats who I would start... ๐Ÿ™‚

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week ๐Ÿ˜€

                They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care

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                @Hooroo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                @Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week ๐Ÿ˜€

                They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care

                it's fucking Derby day!!!

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  Jack Manchester?

                  They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

                  Didn't they lose to England as well?

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                  Jack Manchester?

                  They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

                  Didn't they lose to England as well?

                  That's him.

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                    #104

                    Trying to combine send offs, with giving squad a run and wanting a performance I'd like to see:

                    Moody/Coles/Laulala/BBBR/Barrett (S)/Cane(assuming Todd not 100%)/Frizell/Read/Weber/Mo'unga/SBW/Crotty/Ioane/Bender/BB with bench of Moli/Coltman/Ta'avao/Patty T/Todd/TJP/Goodhue/Bridge

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                      #105

                      The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

                      1. Joe Moody (44)

                      2. Dane Coles (68)

                      3. Nepo Laulala (24)

                      4. Brodie Retallick (80)

                      5. Scott Barrett (35)

                      6. Shannon Frizell (8)

                      7. Sam Cane (67)

                      8. Kieran Read - captain (126)

                      9. Aaron Smith (91)

                      10. Richie Moโ€™unga (16)

                      11. Rieko Ioane (28)

                      12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)

                      13. Ryan Crotty (47)

                      14. Ben Smith (83)

                      15. Beauden Barrett (82)

                      16. Liam Coltman (7)

                      17. Atu Moli (7)

                      18. Angus Ta'avao (13)

                      19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)

                      20. Matt Todd (24)

                      21. Brad Weber (4)

                      22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)

                      23. Jordie Barrett (16)

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                        #106

                        plenty to read into that team.

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                          Bovidae
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                          They are determined to continue with the dual playmakers. I thought BFA might have started at fullback.

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                            Will be interesting to see how this side goes, good to see the 4 leaving all starting.

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                              Yeah it certainly isn't a B team, not a tippity top team, but not far off. Be really interesting to see how Bender and Ioane go!

                              It also give some key people to get back in the saddle. Sadly we are missing 2019s best AB in Savea, but does give Frizzell a chance to look to the future surrounded by top players.

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                                That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.

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                                  That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.

                                  Swap the 2 and the 5 around please ๐Ÿ˜‰ But yes, Wales are up against it IF the ABs show teh right attitude and commitment

                                  And to make it obvious: those that miss out are Tuungafasi, Taylor, Whitelock, Savea (knee), Perenara, Goodhue, Bridge and Reece. Also shows how small the RWC squads are!!

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                                    #112

                                    my main concern is a number of those players have played next to no rugby for almost a month, I know they are quality, but hopefully rustiness and sentimentality wont break over 60 years of tradition...

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      my main concern is a number of those players have played next to no rugby for almost a month, I know they are quality, but hopefully rustiness and sentimentality wont break over 60 years of tradition...

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                                      We haven't won a third place play off since 1991!

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                                        We haven't won a third place play off since 1991!

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                                        @Cyclops 2003?

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                                          @Cyclops 2003?

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                                          @Bovidae said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @Cyclops 2003?

                                          You're right! Panic averted.

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