RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales
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@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
I don't know, I haven't watched any press conferences.
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@Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.
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My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts
@Hooroo he probably will, thats who I would start...
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@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week
They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care
@Hooroo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week
They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care
it's fucking Derby day!!!
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Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
That's him.
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Trying to combine send offs, with giving squad a run and wanting a performance I'd like to see:
Moody/Coles/Laulala/BBBR/Barrett (S)/Cane(assuming Todd not 100%)/Frizell/Read/Weber/Mo'unga/SBW/Crotty/Ioane/Bender/BB with bench of Moli/Coltman/Ta'avao/Patty T/Todd/TJP/Goodhue/Bridge
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The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):
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Joe Moody (44)
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Dane Coles (68)
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Nepo Laulala (24)
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Brodie Retallick (80)
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Scott Barrett (35)
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Shannon Frizell (8)
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Sam Cane (67)
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Kieran Read - captain (126)
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Aaron Smith (91)
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Richie Mo’unga (16)
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Rieko Ioane (28)
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Sonny Bill Williams (56)
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Ryan Crotty (47)
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Ben Smith (83)
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Beauden Barrett (82)
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Liam Coltman (7)
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Atu Moli (7)
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Angus Ta'avao (13)
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Patrick Tuipulotu (29)
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Matt Todd (24)
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Brad Weber (4)
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Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
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Jordie Barrett (16)
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plenty to read into that team.
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Yeah it certainly isn't a B team, not a tippity top team, but not far off. Be really interesting to see how Bender and Ioane go!
It also give some key people to get back in the saddle. Sadly we are missing 2019s best AB in Savea, but does give Frizzell a chance to look to the future surrounded by top players.
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That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.
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That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.
@antipodean said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.
Swap the 2 and the 5 around please
But yes, Wales are up against it IF the ABs show teh right attitude and commitmentAnd to make it obvious: those that miss out are Tuungafasi, Taylor, Whitelock, Savea (knee), Perenara, Goodhue, Bridge and Reece. Also shows how small the RWC squads are!!
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my main concern is a number of those players have played next to no rugby for almost a month, I know they are quality, but hopefully rustiness and sentimentality wont break over 60 years of tradition...
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my main concern is a number of those players have played next to no rugby for almost a month, I know they are quality, but hopefully rustiness and sentimentality wont break over 60 years of tradition...
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Key Facts
• The All Blacks and Wales have played each other 34 times, with 31 wins to the All Blacks and three to Wales. Friday's bronze final will be the fourth time the two teams have meet at the Rugby World Cup. They played in the semifinal of the 1987 RWC and in pool play in 1995 and 2003.
• All Blacks coach Steve Hansen was the Wales coach at the 2003 tournament and is in the unique position of having coached both the All Blacks and Wales against each other at a Rugby World Cup.
• Captain Kieran Read will become the second most capped All Blacks captain on Friday when he leads the side for the 52nd time. He is behind Richie McCaw, who captained the All Blacks 110 times.
• Prop Angus Ta'avao will have played every test this year for the All Blacks - 11 in total.
• Beauden Barrett has scored 644 points in tests for the All Blacks and is fourth on the all-time scoring list, just one point behind Grant Fox in third place. Andrew Mehrtens is second on 967 points and Dan Carter leads the list on 1,598.
