RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales
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@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?
TBF, a few players like Crotty, Ioane and BFA, havent played for almost a month!
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?
Because he should have started last week. :angry_face:
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?
Because he should have started last week. :angry_face:
@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
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You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
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@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.
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@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
@Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.
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@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
I don't know, I haven't watched any press conferences.
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@Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.
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My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFAHopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.
With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts
@Hooroo he probably will, thats who I would start...
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@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week
They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care
@Hooroo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week
They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care
it's fucking Derby day!!!
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Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
That's him.
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Trying to combine send offs, with giving squad a run and wanting a performance I'd like to see:
Moody/Coles/Laulala/BBBR/Barrett (S)/Cane(assuming Todd not 100%)/Frizell/Read/Weber/Mo'unga/SBW/Crotty/Ioane/Bender/BB with bench of Moli/Coltman/Ta'avao/Patty T/Todd/TJP/Goodhue/Bridge
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The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):
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Joe Moody (44)
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Dane Coles (68)
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Nepo Laulala (24)
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Brodie Retallick (80)
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Scott Barrett (35)
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Shannon Frizell (8)
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Sam Cane (67)
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Kieran Read - captain (126)
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Aaron Smith (91)
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Richie Mo’unga (16)
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Rieko Ioane (28)
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Sonny Bill Williams (56)
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Ryan Crotty (47)
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Ben Smith (83)
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Beauden Barrett (82)
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Liam Coltman (7)
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Atu Moli (7)
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Angus Ta'avao (13)
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Patrick Tuipulotu (29)
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Matt Todd (24)
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Brad Weber (4)
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Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
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Jordie Barrett (16)
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plenty to read into that team.
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Yeah it certainly isn't a B team, not a tippity top team, but not far off. Be really interesting to see how Bender and Ioane go!
It also give some key people to get back in the saddle. Sadly we are missing 2019s best AB in Savea, but does give Frizzell a chance to look to the future surrounded by top players.
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That's a good team. With the Welsh having injury worries and a short turnaround, this could be a +25 point win.
