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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Recent comments from Rennie:

    “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

    “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

    So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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    @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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      @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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      @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

      I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

        I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

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        @Nepia said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

        I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

        Exactly. The main point is that he hasn't signed with the ARU yet as the media was reporting.

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        • M Machpants

          @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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          @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

          So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

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            #126

            Graham Mourie spoke on RS yesterday about the process of applying/appointing a coach.

            https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/darcy-waldegrave-drive/audio/how-to-appoint-an-all-black-coach/

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

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              @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

              So you recall Muck Byrne?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

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                @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

                I don’t have any issues with Wayne Smith, but I’m kinda looking forward to a completely new setup with guys that haven’t been involved in the recent past.

                So if we don’t have to I’m hoping three brand newbies that can bring in something fresh and also grow and learn together.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                  So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

                  I don’t have any issues with Wayne Smith, but I’m kinda looking forward to a completely new setup with guys that haven’t been involved in the recent past.

                  So if we don’t have to I’m hoping three brand newbies that can bring in something fresh and also grow and learn together.

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                  @ACT-Crusader my comment wasnt serious...it is likely to be completely new, so makes you wonder who will work with who...

                  Who would Fozzie bring in?
                  Assume JJ would bring Brown, who else?
                  Who would Razor bring?

                  Will any of the above be talking to one another about working together?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @ACT-Crusader my comment wasnt serious...it is likely to be completely new, so makes you wonder who will work with who...

                    Who would Fozzie bring in?
                    Assume JJ would bring Brown, who else?
                    Who would Razor bring?

                    Will any of the above be talking to one another about working together?

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                    @taniwharugby

                    There have been stories in the media that Brown has been approached by both Foster and Robertson, and he already has a relationship with Joseph. He will be in demand.

                    NZR will want to get this finalised ASAP because there could be flow-on effects for super rugby teams losing personnel close to the start of the 2020 season.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Recent comments from Rennie:

                      “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                      “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                      So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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                      @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      Recent comments from Rennie:

                      “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                      “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                      So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

                      Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

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                      • UniteU Unite

                        @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        Recent comments from Rennie:

                        “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                        “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                        So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

                        Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

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                        @Unite said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        Recent comments from Rennie:

                        “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                        “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                        So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

                        Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

                        of course, you can spin that two ways. If you get him, you beat NZ to him and make NZR look bad, or that he reneged on a deal making him look bad and also condemning Raelene further for not getting him..

                        win win for them lol

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                          Rennie with Wayne Smith and Tony Brown is a bit of dream team for me. The problem is we don’t have a world class defensive coach available - I doubt that Smith would take it.

                          And, to the best of my knowledge Robertson is not a defensive specialist; nor Joseph, plus I assume that both would only be keen on a head coaching role.

                          So, could we go outside to get a D specialist or reinvest in McLeod and try to get a coach for him (e.g., Wayne Smith)?

                          Our defense was a fucking mess last week so I’m tempted to boot him, despite Stormy being one of my all time favorite players.

                          Apart from Farrell, who we can’t get anyway, who else would be a defensive specialist we could bring in?

                          I’d also be tempted to get a better kicking/skills coach again - I feel like our kicking has gone downhill since we lost Mick.

                          For the scrum, IFIIK. what are the fern’s thoughts?

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                            We leaked some points when Smith was the defence coach too (e.g., 40 pts to Ireland in Chicago) so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based on only the England game.

                            I think the most important position will be the forwards coach in the new coaching group. I don't think we progressed under Cron in recent years, and usually when the ABs have lost it's been because we have been dominated up front.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              We leaked some points when Smith was the defence coach too (e.g., 40 pts to Ireland in Chicago) so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based on only the England game.

                              I think the most important position will be the forwards coach in the new coaching group. I don't think we progressed under Cron in recent years, and usually when the ABs have lost it's been because we have been dominated up front.

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                              @Bovidae

                              That’s a good point. Cron seemed a strange promotion.

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                              • UniteU Unite

                                @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                Recent comments from Rennie:

                                “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                                “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                                So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

                                Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

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                                @Unite said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                Recent comments from Rennie:

                                “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                                “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                                So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

                                Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

                                Heard "they have sounded out Eddie Jones" too.

                                I'm thinking they have advised all the potential candidates they can think of.

                                That grows into "circling", "sounding out" etc

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                                  The Japan RU has offered JJ more than the double of his current earnings to keep his job. I don't think the NZRFU could make such a high financial proposal.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

                                    So you recall Muck Byrne?

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                                    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

                                    So you recall Muck Byrne?

                                    Didn't seem to do much for the Wallaby's kicking skills...

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

                                      So you recall Muck Byrne?

                                      Didn't seem to do much for the Wallaby's kicking skills...

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                                      @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

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                                        @taniwharugby @antipodean TBF, the kicking coach can't have much impact if the team is instructed not to kick by the coach.

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                                          He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

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