2020 All Blacks Squad

[antipodean]

@Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

Just need to get them playing for the same SR team. I.e. Auckland...

[Chris]

@antipodean said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

@Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

Just need to get them playing for the same SR team. I.e. Auckland...

Ahhhhh NO

[ACT Crusader]

@Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

Four tests starting together and they are the most “settled”

We really do have problems. Razor to the rescue

[sparky]

We didn't see enough of Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papali'i, Will Jordan or Damian McKenzie at international level in 2019. All had injuries woes.

All four, if injury free, should be regulars in the All Blacks 23 in 2020.

[Nogusta]

Anyone hear about the NZRFU bringing back the Junior All Blacks next year?

[sparky]

@Nogusta said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Anyone hear about the NZRFU bringing back the Junior All Blacks next year?

Would be a good idea. They could play some European club sides and the Pacific Nations Cup teams.

[Cyclops]

Useful from a development perspective, but I also wonder about a strategic measure. It ties guys to us so once they're overseas they're not able to qualify under residency.

[Higgins]

The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

[Cyclops]

@Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

[Kirwan]

@Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

@Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

Much better name

[canefan]

@Kirwan Or NZ B? There should be only one ABs team

[cgrant]

Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

[taniwharugby]

@Cyclops they could wear grey...

[Chris]

@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

Rayasi also with the 7s in 20/20

[cgrant]

OK, thanks.
And what about McNicol ? I hope his injury woes are over.

[Canes4life]

@Chris Wes Goosen.

[Chris]

@Canes4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

@Chris Wes Goosen.

A Real option I like his work rate and finishing ability

[canefan]

I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

[Cyclops]

@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

Will Jordan for fullback (or wing). Bryn Hall at halfback. Ethan Blackadder in the loose forwards.

[Kirwan]

@canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.

Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.

A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.

They managed him poorly.