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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

    So you recall Muck Byrne?

    Didn't seem to do much for the Wallaby's kicking skills...

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    @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

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      @taniwharugby @antipodean TBF, the kicking coach can't have much impact if the team is instructed not to kick by the coach.

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        He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

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          @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

          Correlated with a number of players retiring who were good kickers.

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          • gt12G gt12

            He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

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            @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

            This is what I don't understand. Obviously I'm not in the environment, but it's a reasonable question to ask where you demonstrated a capability to be the coach with a broader portfolio.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

              This is what I don't understand. Obviously I'm not in the environment, but it's a reasonable question to ask where you demonstrated a capability to be the coach with a broader portfolio.

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              @antipodean said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

              This is what I don't understand. Obviously I'm not in the environment, but it's a reasonable question to ask where you demonstrated a capability to be the coach with a broader portfolio.

              I agree completely.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure :man_shrugging:

                Correlated with a number of players retiring who were good kickers.

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                @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

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                  @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

                  Sometimes in the one match. His kicking was pretty good against Ireland in the QF from memory.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

                    Sometimes in the one match. His kicking was pretty good against Ireland in the QF from memory.

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                    @antipodean for the first time in a very long time...

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                      Whats also of interest to me is if the support staff will be kept on/want to stay on. Physio/S and C/Dietician/manager etc. A lot have been with the team since GH early days.

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                      • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                        Whats also of interest to me is if the support staff will be kept on/want to stay on. Physio/S and C/Dietician/manager etc. A lot have been with the team since GH early days.

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                        @Magpie_in_aus the link I posted above indicated the new guy comes in with his full team, but you'd think some of them like Gill, Enoka would simply stay with whoever takes over?

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                          One New Zealand Rugby board member in the loop is said to have been very excited by the level of support Foster has assembled, while another source indicated it was an "impressive" group.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117061739/all-blacks-coaching-vacancy-has-ian-foster-formed-dream-team-for-tilt-at-top-job

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                            Foster could be assisted by Bruce Banner (forwards), Tony Stark (backs) and Steve Rogers (motivation & leadership) and i would still despair

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                              Foster could be assisted by Bruce Banner (forwards), Tony Stark (backs) and Steve Rogers (motivation & leadership) and i would still despair

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                              @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

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                                @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

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                                @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

                                could be considered for a strength and conditioning role, but not the guy you want coming up with the strategy.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  Foster could be assisted by Bruce Banner (forwards), Tony Stark (backs) and Steve Rogers (motivation & leadership) and i would still despair

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                                  @mariner4life I'm gonna take a wait and see approach.

                                  If he has the right people around hiim, then it could well work....plus no amount of ranting or angst will change whatever decision the fish heads in Wellington make!

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @mariner4life I'm gonna take a wait and see approach.

                                    If he has the right people around hiim, then it could well work....plus no amount of ranting or angst will change whatever decision the fish heads in Wellington make!

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                                    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @mariner4life I'm gonna take a wait and see approach.

                                    If he has the right people around hiim, then it could well work....plus no amount of ranting or angst will change whatever decision the fish heads in Wellington make!

                                    hi TR, welcome to The Silver Fern. Interesting first post, but that's not really how we do things around here. Don't worry, you'll pick it up pretty quick

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      @mariner4life I'm gonna take a wait and see approach.

                                      If he has the right people around hiim, then it could well work....plus no amount of ranting or angst will change whatever decision the fish heads in Wellington make!

                                      hi TR, welcome to The Silver Fern. Interesting first post, but that's not really how we do things around here. Don't worry, you'll pick it up pretty quick

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                                      @mariner4life meh....my hands have been wrung enough...surely with Foz at the helm it will make selections as exciting as they have been the last couple of weeks!!

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                                        @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

                                        could be considered for a strength and conditioning role, but not the guy you want coming up with the strategy.

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                                        @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

                                        could be considered for a strength and conditioning role, but not the guy you want coming up with the strategy.

                                        Good for sorting out a party too.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          One New Zealand Rugby board member in the loop is said to have been very excited by the level of support Foster has assembled, while another source indicated it was an "impressive" group.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117061739/all-blacks-coaching-vacancy-has-ian-foster-formed-dream-team-for-tilt-at-top-job

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                                          @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          One New Zealand Rugby board member in the loop is said to have been very excited by the level of support Foster has assembled, while another source indicated it was an "impressive" group.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117061739/all-blacks-coaching-vacancy-has-ian-foster-formed-dream-team-for-tilt-at-top-job

                                          The sauce I got is that John Mitchell will be joining him with Halligan as kicking coach.

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