Chiefs 2020

[Chris]

@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2020:

Updated:

LOCKS (5)
Michael Allardice
Tyler Ardron
Laghlan McWhannell
Tupou Vaa’i
Daymon Leasuasu

LOOSE FORWARDS (7)
Sam Cane
Lachlan Boshier
Mitchell Karpik
Luke Jacobson
Mitchell Brown
Samipeni Finau
Pita Gus Sowakula

INSIDE BACKS (6)
Brad Weber
Te Torioa Tahuriorangi
Carlos Price/Leroy Carter
Aaron Cruden
Tiaan Falcon
Kaleb Trask/Luteru Laulala.

OUTSIDE BACKS (7)
Solomon Alaimalo
Shaun Stevenson
Sean Wainui
Damian McKenzie
Bailyn Sullivan
Kini Naholo
Etene Nanai-Seturo -> Lalomilo Lalomilo/winger via draft

I heard you signed Michael Woolliams

[Bovidae]

@Higgins This guy.

[Bovidae]

@Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

I heard you signed Michael Woolliams

I mentioned him in my original post. There are probably 3 young locks fighting over 2 positions. Leasuasu was used as an injury replacement late in the season so might be favoured.

[Stargazer]

@Bovidae Sam McNicol not coming back?

[Stargazer]

@Baron-Silas-Greenback Of course, you would. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

[Bovidae]

@Stargazer said in Chiefs 2020:

@Bovidae Sam McNicol not coming back?

No idea, but it's hard to pick someone who hasn't played in 2 seasons. His initial concussion was very severe.

[Jonty lean]

@Bovidae is Sam mcnicol still contracted

[Stargazer]

@Bovidae He played one or two games for the Magpies this year, and then injured his ankle. So his head should be allright.

[OleOleOle]

@Tim correct

[Number 10]

@Jonty-lean said in Chiefs 2020:

@Bovidae is Sam mcnicol still contracted

2019 was the final year of the Chiefs contract McNicol was on.

He suffered an ankle injury in the Magpies opening match of the Mitre 10 Cup, and didn't play again.

[Tim]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/117249254/super-rugby-chiefs-reveal-their-coaching-staff-with-warren-gatland-coming-home

Former Chiefs first five-eighth and New Zealand under-20s assistant David Hill will join the backroom staff as an assistant coach, the Chiefs announced when revealing their coaching line-up for next season on Friday.

Hill will join the unit of forwards coach Neil Barnes, defence coach Tabai Matson, attack coach Roger Randle, scrum coach Nick White, and resource coach Andrew Strawbridge, who have all stayed on after last season.

So, the same as last year, with Gatland making changes in 2021?

[Bovidae]

@Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

Former Chiefs first five-eighth and New Zealand under-20s assistant David Hill will join the backroom staff as an assistant coach, the Chiefs announced when revealing their coaching line-up for next season on Friday.

Hill will join the unit of forwards coach Neil Barnes, defence coach Tabai Matson, attack coach Roger Randle, scrum coach Nick White, and resource coach Andrew Strawbridge, who have all stayed on after last season.

So, the same as last year, with Gatland making changes in 2021?

Last year as in 2018?

I'm happy that Barnes is back in charge of the forwards as moving him to the defence coach this year was a mistake. White did well as the scrum coach but I didn't think the forwards performed as well when he became the forwards coach.

Matson was the attack coach so he now has a change of role. AFAIK Strawbridge was the defence coach before the reshuffle. I had thought he was being moved aside when he took over Waikato.

[Tim]

@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2020:

Last year as in 2018?

Ah, 2019 was what I meant.

[Bovidae]

More info:

https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/2020-gallagher-chiefs-coaching-group-confirmed

[Baron Silas Greenback]

Bloody hell I just realised how little attention I paid to Super Rugby and the chiefs last year. Did the Chiefs make the playoffs??

[Yeetyaah]

@Baron-Silas-Greenback yes. Played quarters against Jaguares and lost by 4 I think.

[Crucial]

I'm a bit concerned actually that in the rush to grab Gatland the Chiefs have got themselves in a mess coaching wise.

Gatland hasn't chosen this team, he is coming in and running a team already in place that seem to have already decided how to run themselves with some role shuffling. Kind of like a new CEO just keeping all the senior management and hoping they can work successfully under him. There is an element of finger crossing here.
Then we have the 2021 situation where either one of these guys will be temporarily standing in as head coach (likely) or someone else will have to come in from outside the group and run it without changing much.
It's just all a bit messy and seems to lock these guys in place for the next couple of years because of the disruption factor.

Time will obviously tell but I can't believe that anyone would willingly plan things in this manner so that in 2022 Gats can form his own coaching team and push on. Just looks like a 2 year holding pattern to me.

[Yeetyaah]

@Crucial I agree to a point. It does feel ultra rushed, while I'm stoked on Gats being coach coz Coops was shit, him taking a year off kinda doesn't sit well. Idk I suppose well see what happens.

[Crucial]

What is a Resource coach anyway? Is that some odd term for a skills coach? Making sure the players have the skill resources to play the style required? I have no idea.
None of these assistants fill me with glee as a stand in for 2021.
The only other option is that the NZRU have an idea in mind as a stand in head coach. Someone happy to continue Gats plans and not change much.

[Bovidae]

@Crucial Resource coaches are usually a pool of specialist coaches who are involved with NZ rugby teams (U20s, NZS, Black Ferns, etc) as required. I assume that NZR pays their salaries.