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  • A ARHS

    I must be hard to please I guess, but am disappointed at some of the signings. I just do not get why some local talent gets ignored and they seemingly take big punts on outsiders. Where is Tupo Vaai? Ah Kuoi did not impress me much in NPC. Looks like we were well beaten by Blues on Narawa and Tucker, and Zane Kapeli and Jesse Parete also signed elsewhere, so we are left with Kini Naholo and Dylan Nel (why?), who seem riskier options to me. Sorry to see Judd and Stratton go, and was expecting Hauiti-Parepare to be picked up. Never considered Milo-Harris. Also thought Matt Garland and Mitch Jacobson unlucky again. Surprised Coxon chosen ahead of Norris, but maybe a year early for him. The plus is that Chiefs seem the most stable squad. Hoping that Sam McNicol comes good, as he had huge potential, and maybe Tiaan Falcon will come through.

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    @ARHS said in Chiefs 2020:

    I must be hard to please I guess, but am disappointed at some of the signings. I just do not get why some local talent gets ignored and they seemingly take big punts on outsiders. Where is Tupo Vaai? Ah Kuoi did not impress me much in NPC.

    Yes, I mentioned earlier that I don't agree with this selection. We don't know how early some of the players like Tucker were signed as he was involved with the Blues this season.

    I do find it strange that Parete and Nel swap regions. I don't rate Parete that highly and thought no.8 was a problem for the Chiefs.

    Surprised Coxon chosen ahead of Norris, but maybe a year early for him.

    Coxon was brought in as an injury replacement this year so it was between him and Mafileo for the 3rd LH spot. Coxon is a Cambridge boy so a local as such, and was a former U20 rep. Norris has a big future but showed his inexperience in the M10 Cup in the scrum. The Chiefs have a number of 19/20 yr olds in their system so as long as they are signed there is no reason to rush their development.

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    • HoorooH Hooroo

      Is DMac going to be ready for the beginning of the season?

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      @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2020:

      Is DMac going to be ready for the beginning of the season?

      Barnes said he has started contact work so will be good to go.

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        I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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          @Chris Yep, I think so, too.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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            @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

            I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

            I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

            I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

              I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

              I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

              I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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              @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

              pretty much immediately

              took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                pretty much immediately

                took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

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                @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                pretty much immediately

                took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                  @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                  pretty much immediately

                  took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                  That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                  I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

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                  @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                  @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                  pretty much immediately

                  took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                  That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                  I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                  same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

                    I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

                    I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                    I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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                    @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                    I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                    Barnes said that Gatland will be giving the coaches plenty of responsibility so I doubt he'll be making radical changes. He (Barnes) was very relieved to be the forwards coach again.

                    The interest will be whether Matson is asked to have the Chiefs using the rush defence.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                      @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                      @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                      pretty much immediately

                      took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                      That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                      I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                      same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

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                      @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                      @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                      @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                      @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                      pretty much immediately

                      took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                      That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                      I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                      same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

                      Another reason to be happy I don't Facebook.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                        pretty much immediately

                        took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                        That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                        I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                        same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

                        Another reason to be happy I don't Facebook.

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                        @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                        @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                        pretty much immediately

                        took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                        That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                        I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                        same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

                        Another reason to be happy I don't Facebook.

                        bro do you even modern life?

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                          @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                          @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                          @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                          pretty much immediately

                          took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                          That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                          I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                          same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

                          Another reason to be happy I don't Facebook.

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                          @Nepia There are ways to filter those 'memories' out. Programmes like "Social Fixer" work a treat! πŸ˜„ No FB memories, friend suggestions, sponsor ads, you name it!

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

                            I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

                            I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                            I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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                            @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                            @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

                            I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

                            I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                            I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

                            Good point that will be interesting How Gatland takes this team forward

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                              @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                              @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                              pretty much immediately

                              took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

                              That is my kind of pedantry! πŸ˜‰

                              I remember the first round shellacking from the Highlanders but can't remember the second match!

                              same shit (facebook memories reminds me every year). Set piece was ropey, defense was passive, rucks were sloppy. It was the Foster years Mark II

                              Another reason to be happy I don't Facebook.

                              bro do you even modern life?

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                              @mariner4life @Stargazer I go on once a month to see if I have been invited to any parties but that's about it.

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                                @mariner4life @Stargazer I go on once a month to see if I have been invited to any parties but that's about it.

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                                @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                                @mariner4life @Stargazer I go on once a month to see if I have been invited to any parties but that's about it.

                                must be a disappointing time of month

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                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12284792

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                                    He's a bloody good talking head, should stick with that

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                                      Stuff understands that Cooper was keen on using Naholo in Super Rugby last season but the former Chiefs coach decided against it because he was struggling with a hip injury.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/117379754/super-rugby-mentors-back-chiefs-recruit-kini-naholo-to-match-heights-of-all-black-brother

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Stuff understands that Cooper was keen on using Naholo in Super Rugby last season but the former Chiefs coach decided against it because he was struggling with a hip injury.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/117379754/super-rugby-mentors-back-chiefs-recruit-kini-naholo-to-match-heights-of-all-black-brother

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                                        A possible starting xv
                                        1.moli
                                        2.harris
                                        3.lualala
                                        4.ardon
                                        5.alladrice
                                        6.karpik
                                        7.cane
                                        8.jacobsen
                                        9.weber
                                        10.cruduen
                                        11.alamolia
                                        12.linert brown
                                        13.manu
                                        14.Stevenson
                                        15.mckenzie

                                        Reserves
                                        16.tuakeiaho
                                        17.ta vaou
                                        18.ross
                                        19.mcwhallel
                                        20.sowuluka
                                        21 te tahourangi
                                        22 falcon
                                        23 wainui

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                                          I think you could go back every year at squad announcement time and these 'optimum' XVs are posted. Very rarely do we ever see them on the field.

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