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    @Hooroo said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Background to this, this company fired a journalist yesterday who was told to talk about sports because he worked for a sports website. This was his last article

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/three-good-dogs-i-met-1839442469

    Now another employee is writing articles slagging of their bosses on their own site

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-adults-in-the-room-1837487584

    So they were obviously looking to get fired. I never understand how this is news.

    They weren’t looking to get fired though , they are looking at going to court for unjustified dismissal.
    The reason I posted it here is there’s a scrap going on between the new owners of the site who want to make money and their writers who want to write shit that gets lots of clicks and twitter followers for them .
    A lot of these digital media sites have been laying off lots of people because its becoming more difficult to make money out if digital media and now we have a company who’s employees are actually working against management using their own website.

    Didn’t know where else to post it , it doesn’t really fit in any another thread

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    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    @Hooroo said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Background to this, this company fired a journalist yesterday who was told to talk about sports because he worked for a sports website. This was his last article

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/three-good-dogs-i-met-1839442469

    Now another employee is writing articles slagging of their bosses on their own site

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-adults-in-the-room-1837487584

    So they were obviously looking to get fired. I never understand how this is news.

    They weren’t looking to get fired though , they are looking at going to court for unjustified dismissal.
    The reason I posted it here is there’s a scrap going on between the new owners of the site who want to make money and their writers who want to write shit that gets lots of clicks and twitter followers for them .
    A lot of these digital media sites have been laying off lots of people because its becoming more difficult to make money out if digital media and now we have a company who’s employees are actually working against management using their own website.

    Didn’t know where else to post it , it doesn’t really fit in any another thread

    I'm not criticising you posting, don't get me wrong. Just the nothingness of it (to me)

    Do I have it right in saying that the sports journo wasn't doing the job he was paid to do and was let go and is now fighting it?

    If so, I don't understand why he feels so entitles to do as he wishes with others money.

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    @Hooroo said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    @Hooroo said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Background to this, this company fired a journalist yesterday who was told to talk about sports because he worked for a sports website. This was his last article

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/three-good-dogs-i-met-1839442469

    Now another employee is writing articles slagging of their bosses on their own site

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-adults-in-the-room-1837487584

    So they were obviously looking to get fired. I never understand how this is news.

    They weren’t looking to get fired though , they are looking at going to court for unjustified dismissal.
    The reason I posted it here is there’s a scrap going on between the new owners of the site who want to make money and their writers who want to write shit that gets lots of clicks and twitter followers for them .
    A lot of these digital media sites have been laying off lots of people because its becoming more difficult to make money out if digital media and now we have a company who’s employees are actually working against management using their own website.

    Didn’t know where else to post it , it doesn’t really fit in any another thread

    I'm not criticising you posting, don't get me wrong. Just the nothingness of it (to me)

    Do I have it right in saying that the sports journo wasn't doing the job he was paid to do and was let go and is now fighting it?

    If so, I don't understand why he feels so entitles to do as he wishes with others money.

    Not just him, most of the employees at the company seem to feel the same way and are acting against the companies owners . I find that sense of self destructive entitlement bizarre.

    Most if not all of my posts are fairly pointless, this is not a new thing .

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    @jegga Important to remember that Deadspin was a Gawker website ...

    They were behind a significant part of the hyper-politicization of everything in internet media.

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    @Tim said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga Important to remember that Deadspin was a Gawker website ...

    They were behind a significant part of the hyper-politicization of everything in internet media.

    Yeah its hard to feel sorry for ex Gawker staff considering the awfulness of most of them . Splinter couldn't make money off them and now the new owners are finding out what entitled whiny narcissistic children their staff are .
    Today six of them resigned in solidarity with the guy who refused to write about sports on a sports site and earlier this week there were articles from them whining about how their auto play ads sucked which resulted in Farmers insurance pulling a million dollar ad campaign from the company because Deadspin staff took the piss out of them in their article.

    They must be incredibly self absorbed to not notice Buzzfeed, Vox and Vice have all had mass layoffs, there can't be many places that would hire someone who actively and publicly worked against their own employer.

    Peter Theil couldnt ruin their careers completely so they decided to do it by themselves .

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    there needs to be a movie about this guy.

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    This is a fascinating read I thought about the interview with Shamima Begum. Arguably the most hated person in GB

    Anthony Loyd  /  Oct 13, 2019  /  tags

    Inside the trial of Shamima Begum

    Inside the trial of Shamima Begum

    What we lost when Shamima Begum was found: by the reporter who discovered Bethnal Green’s jihadi bride.

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    Random 24 year old man spontaneously raises millions for charity , gets interviewed by local paper which digs up tweets from when he was 16 . Paper and journo gets massive blowback , journos identity is discovered, turns out he has said awful shit on twitter too and paper sacks him . Journo still doesn’t seem to understand what happened

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    During the seven months I worked as a trending-news reporter for the Des Moines Register, it was my job to write about viral news in Iowa and to frame my stories in ways that would increase their viral potential. My last story for the paper, a profile of local celebrity Carson King, was my most […]

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    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Random 24 year old man spontaneously raises millions for charity , gets interviewed by local paper which digs up tweets from when he was 16 . Paper and journo gets massive blowback , journos identity is discovered, turns out he has said awful shit on twitter too and paper sacks him . Journo still doesn’t seem to understand what happened

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    During the seven months I worked as a trending-news reporter for the Des Moines Register, it was my job to write about viral news in Iowa and to frame my stories in ways that would increase their viral potential. My last story for the paper, a profile of local celebrity Carson King, was my most […]

    This was definitely an interesting read but your description implied (or I misread it's intention) that the journalist was setting out to set him up ... when (and this is in his own words obviously) he was a writing a series of articles about him due to the charity work.

    I can kind of understand why the journo doesn't understand what happened. The newspaper posted an editorial explaining the rationale for why 'they' were chosing to include the info about the tweets but were preempted by the guy himself. And the kid himself tweeted that he didn't have an issue with the reporter.

    Carol Hunter  /  Sep 23, 2019  /  news

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    The racist jokes were found in a routine background check. Editors discussed whether and how to report them.

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    @Nepia said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Random 24 year old man spontaneously raises millions for charity , gets interviewed by local paper which digs up tweets from when he was 16 . Paper and journo gets massive blowback , journos identity is discovered, turns out he has said awful shit on twitter too and paper sacks him . Journo still doesn’t seem to understand what happened

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    During the seven months I worked as a trending-news reporter for the Des Moines Register, it was my job to write about viral news in Iowa and to frame my stories in ways that would increase their viral potential. My last story for the paper, a profile of local celebrity Carson King, was my most […]

    This was definitely an interesting read but your description implied (or I misread it's intention) that the journalist was setting out to set him up ... when (and this is in his own words obviously) he was a writing a series of articles about him due to the charity work.

    I can kind of understand why the journo doesn't understand what happened. The newspaper posted an editorial explaining the rationale for why 'they' were chosing to include the info about the tweets but were preempted by the guy himself. And the kid himself tweeted that he didn't have an issue with the reporter.

    Carol Hunter  /  Sep 23, 2019  /  news

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    The racist jokes were found in a routine background check. Editors discussed whether and how to report them.

    I don’t think I implied he was setting him up . He says in the first sentence he saw his job as to make sure his stories went viral so he included the tweets. He obviously never anticipated that it would massively backfire on him .

    I followed the story when it first broke and the guy who raised the money is obviously a good sort so I guess having some understanding of what the journo is going through he wouldn’t wish it on anyone .

    I thought it was an interesting story about social media and how what you say on it can come back to haunt you.

    I don’t have much sympathy for the journo , he reminds me of Sarah Jeong he just didn’t have the high profile supporters she did .

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    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    @Nepia said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Random 24 year old man spontaneously raises millions for charity , gets interviewed by local paper which digs up tweets from when he was 16 . Paper and journo gets massive blowback , journos identity is discovered, turns out he has said awful shit on twitter too and paper sacks him . Journo still doesn’t seem to understand what happened

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    During the seven months I worked as a trending-news reporter for the Des Moines Register, it was my job to write about viral news in Iowa and to frame my stories in ways that would increase their viral potential. My last story for the paper, a profile of local celebrity Carson King, was my most […]

    This was definitely an interesting read but your description implied (or I misread it's intention) that the journalist was setting out to set him up ... when (and this is in his own words obviously) he was a writing a series of articles about him due to the charity work.

    I can kind of understand why the journo doesn't understand what happened. The newspaper posted an editorial explaining the rationale for why 'they' were chosing to include the info about the tweets but were preempted by the guy himself. And the kid himself tweeted that he didn't have an issue with the reporter.

    Carol Hunter  /  Sep 23, 2019  /  news

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    The racist jokes were found in a routine background check. Editors discussed whether and how to report them.

    I don’t think I implied he was setting him up . He says in the first sentence he saw his job as to make sure his stories went viral so he included the tweets. He obviously never anticipated that it would massively backfire on him .

    I followed the story when it first broke and the guy who raised the money is obviously a good sort so I guess having some understanding of what the journo is going through he wouldn’t wish it on anyone .

    I thought it was an interesting story about social media and how what you say on it can come back to haunt you.

    I don’t have much sympathy for the journo , he reminds me of Sarah Jeong he just didn’t have the high profile supporters she did .

    All good, must have just been my interpretation. I don't know who Jeong is but I guess we have to agree to disagree on the journo, he seemed pretty supportive of the guy to me - but I didn't follow it at the time, only just did some research after reading your link.

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    @Nepia said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    @Nepia said in Interesting reads:

    @jegga said in Interesting reads:

    Random 24 year old man spontaneously raises millions for charity , gets interviewed by local paper which digs up tweets from when he was 16 . Paper and journo gets massive blowback , journos identity is discovered, turns out he has said awful shit on twitter too and paper sacks him . Journo still doesn’t seem to understand what happened

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    Twitter hates me. The Des Moines Register fired me. Here’s what really happened.

    During the seven months I worked as a trending-news reporter for the Des Moines Register, it was my job to write about viral news in Iowa and to frame my stories in ways that would increase their viral potential. My last story for the paper, a profile of local celebrity Carson King, was my most […]

    This was definitely an interesting read but your description implied (or I misread it's intention) that the journalist was setting out to set him up ... when (and this is in his own words obviously) he was a writing a series of articles about him due to the charity work.

    I can kind of understand why the journo doesn't understand what happened. The newspaper posted an editorial explaining the rationale for why 'they' were chosing to include the info about the tweets but were preempted by the guy himself. And the kid himself tweeted that he didn't have an issue with the reporter.

    Carol Hunter  /  Sep 23, 2019  /  news

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    Register editor: Here’s how we reported on Carson King’s tweets

    The racist jokes were found in a routine background check. Editors discussed whether and how to report them.

    I don’t think I implied he was setting him up . He says in the first sentence he saw his job as to make sure his stories went viral so he included the tweets. He obviously never anticipated that it would massively backfire on him .

    I followed the story when it first broke and the guy who raised the money is obviously a good sort so I guess having some understanding of what the journo is going through he wouldn’t wish it on anyone .

    I thought it was an interesting story about social media and how what you say on it can come back to haunt you.

    I don’t have much sympathy for the journo , he reminds me of Sarah Jeong he just didn’t have the high profile supporters she did .

    All good, must have just been my interpretation. I don't know who Jeong is but I guess we have to agree to disagree on the journo, he seemed pretty supportive of the guy to me - but I didn't follow it at the time, only just did some research after reading your link.

    It was around the same time as Trudeau’s penchant for black face earlier in his life so it was interesting to follow the two stories.

    Struggling to give a shit about the journo . If the fundraiser hadn’t had the brains to front foot it on the advice of a pr firm it would have been much worse for him .
    Sarah Jeong is a nyt writer who after she was hired was found to have tweeted all kinds of racist tweets and stuff like “ kill all men “ but people like Ezra Klein from Vox went bat for her despite all this and the fact she outed a gay Chinese tech writer who was previously anonymous. Eventually the nyt realised she was actually an awful person and moved her on.

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    How to recognize AI snake oil:

    https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arvindn/talks/MIT-STS-AI-snakeoil.pdf
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    @Tim Wonder what Bill English would think of that, given he was such a fan of big data analysis to predict social outcomes

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    @dogmeat Politician buying into a management fad despite having no knowledge of the underlying technology or statistical analysis? Not exactly shocking.

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    @Tim Is it Nebraska that has really jumped into this? It was a key plank to English's plans for social welfare reform if Nats had been re-elected.

    To give him some credit I think he was looking for more effective ways to target resources rather than aping a management fad. He was planning to mine existing DSW data to try and identify pointers to a bad adult outcome in young kids.

    But yeah...nah

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    @dogmeat said in Interesting reads:

    @Tim Is it Nebraska that has really jumped into this? It was a key plank to English's plans for social welfare reform if Nats had been re-elected.

    To give him some credit I think he was looking for more effective ways to target resources rather than aping a management fad. He was planning to mine existing DSW data to try and identify pointers to a bad adult outcome in young kids.

    But yeah...nah

    Pittsburgh was really interested

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-09/from-new-zealand-to-pittsburgh-a-moneyball-approach-to-helping-troubled-kids

    David Farrar claimed it was behind falling teenage pregnancy rates but they had been trending downwards in the West since the 90s

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    This might be the best place for these stories. I've been reading the articles in the newspaper but the online versions are best with additional photos and video.

    Andrea Vance, Iain McGregor

    Pitcairn: The edge of the world part 1

    Pitcairn: The edge of the world part 1

    Pitcairn Island: The edge of the world part 1. Remote, rugged and a high-value tourist destination.

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    Cryptocurrency scam:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-50435014

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