All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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@sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
So the best coaching options are now going to be plotting the AB's downfall.
Yep, Australia, the Lions and Japan will have better Kiwi international coaches than the All Blacks. Total incompetence by the NZR Board.
If it's Foster, then Wales, England's defence and Georgia will have better Kiwi coaches too.
These are tough days. Keep the (Black) faith!
What could NZR have done differently? Replace Hansen in 2017?
@Godder said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
So the best coaching options are now going to be plotting the AB's downfall.
Yep, Australia, the Lions and Japan will have better Kiwi international coaches than the All Blacks. Total incompetence by the NZR Board.
If it's Foster, then Wales, England's defence and Georgia will have better Kiwi coaches too.
These are tough days. Keep the (Black) faith!
What could NZR have done differently? Replace Hansen in 2017?
Yes he was skated to go then but chose 2 more years. Def 2 more years too far. Foster could have had a crack from then, and we'd be in a better of position now. Does well after lions? Keep him. Does shit, everyone would know it and see the abs coaching opportunity coming
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@Godder said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
So the best coaching options are now going to be plotting the AB's downfall.
Yep, Australia, the Lions and Japan will have better Kiwi international coaches than the All Blacks. Total incompetence by the NZR Board.
If it's Foster, then Wales, England's defence and Georgia will have better Kiwi coaches too.
These are tough days. Keep the (Black) faith!
What could NZR have done differently? Replace Hansen in 2017?
Yes he was skated to go then but chose 2 more years. Def 2 more years too far. Foster could have had a crack from then, and we'd be in a better of position now. Does well after lions? Keep him. Does shit, everyone would know it and see the abs coaching opportunity coming
@Machpants but 2 years ago, Foster would likely have been the only option? Plus, under Tew, the contracting would likely have seen him sign 4 years with option to extend to 2023?
I think it would have been best for all, had Hansen followed Richie, Dan, Conrad, Maa, Mealamu et al in 2015...but hindsight and all
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I'm shattered that Dave Rennie is going to be coaching the Wallabies. IMO Rennie is the best head coach NZ has produced in the pro-era, and to see him not even progress to interview stage for the vacant AB job is terrible. Apparently the Wallabies have been talking to him for months, which is annoying as we've known Steve Hansen was retiring for ages yet it seems that NZR didn't even start discussions with candidates until after the RWC. What's the point of approaching 26 candidates if all the good ones have already been snapped up?
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I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Pretty easy to see why other coaches rule themselves out and take other jobs. Get paid a shit tonne more and get maximum respect / kudos for a series of results which would have you down as the worst All Blacks coach ever.
Gatland 56% win rate with Wales
Schmidt 72% win rate with Ireland
Rennie - ?
Joseph - ?Not a tough decision!
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I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Pretty easy to see why other coaches rule themselves out and take other jobs. Get paid a shit tonne more and get maximum respect / kudos for a series of results which would have you down as the worst All Blacks coach ever.
Gatland 56% win rate with Wales
Schmidt 72% win rate with Ireland
Rennie - ?
Joseph - ?Not a tough decision!
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
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@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
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I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Pretty easy to see why other coaches rule themselves out and take other jobs. Get paid a shit tonne more and get maximum respect / kudos for a series of results which would have you down as the worst All Blacks coach ever.
Gatland 56% win rate with Wales
Schmidt 72% win rate with Ireland
Rennie - ?
Joseph - ?Not a tough decision!
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Now you're being silly
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
Tahs - super rugby.
Wallabies - world cup final
Leinster - heineken cup, pro 14 -
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
Tahs - super rugby.
Wallabies - world cup final
Leinster - heineken cup, pro 14 -
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
Robertson ? And ?
Let’s say either has Wayne Smith, then step forward please. That would sway it for me. Also, if either now had Tony Brown (yet to be contracted at Japan and could be a wildcard, although a flipflopper if that happened).
I’d also be impressed if Razor can bring back O’Gara.
What are the thoughts?
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After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
Robertson ? And ?
Let’s say either has Wayne Smith, then step forward please. That would sway it for me. Also, if either now had Tony Brown (yet to be contracted at Japan and could be a wildcard, although a flipflopper if that happened).
I’d also be impressed if Razor can bring back O’Gara.
What are the thoughts?
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@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage good coach for a couple of years and then downhill?
Quite possibly.
I think there is a shit ton of politics to deal with in the Wallabies camp as well. Hence a good coach, won't necessarily make a good Wallabies coach.
Lots of people (well, Cantabs) thought Deans was a coaching god, but his record with Oz not that diff to Chiek
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@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
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After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
Robertson ? And ?
Let’s say either has Wayne Smith, then step forward please. That would sway it for me. Also, if either now had Tony Brown (yet to be contracted at Japan and could be a wildcard, although a flipflopper if that happened).
I’d also be impressed if Razor can bring back O’Gara.
What are the thoughts?
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae No idea what your talking about
Cheika has said numerous times, including during the RWC, that he doesn't spend any time analysing the opposition teams.
@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae No idea what your talking about
Cheika has said numerous times, including during the RWC, that he doesn't spend any time analysing the opposition teams.
Right. Well, if thats his method, thats his method.
I'd say that in the RWC semi final, we'd spent too long analysing the opposition team.
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@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
Tahs - super rugby.
Wallabies - world cup final
Leinster - heineken cup, pro 14@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
Tahs - super rugby.
Wallabies - world cup final
Leinster - heineken cup, pro 14That's ignoring an immense amount of luck in the 2015 RWC and the work of previous coaches like Declan Kidney and Chris Hickey. What transformed the Tahs was a South African flanker and a bit of luck in the final.
