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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • ChrisC Online
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    Inclined to agree with these quotes from Ben Kay

    **Foster is the establishment figure. He would provide continuity within the All Blacks set-up, but how closely tied is he to the previous regime? Can he evolve? How much do New Zealand need to start again?" Kay wrote.

    All the Crusaders people love Scott Robertson but he does things slightly differently. He brands each season differently; one season it could be boxing; another season it could be NFL. One year he built his narrative around Melbourne Storm, the NRL team, and brought players in to speak to the squad. He is a very creative coach and would be more of a maverick appointment."**

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      Poison chalice

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288195&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utmc_campaign=nzh_fb

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      @taniwharugby What the fuck would he know?

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @taniwharugby What the fuck would he know?

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        @antipodean said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @taniwharugby What the fuck would he know?

        well, he seems like an expert on being average

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          #823

          Take this bit for example.

          "The squad Ferguson left behind at Old Trafford was nowhere near as strong as it had been and things began to spiral as successive managers tried and failed to rebuild the team. The same challenge awaits Hansen's successor. New Zealand are still a fine team but they are not as strong as they were four years ago."

          No shit Sherlock, but which assistant coach was involved while they still managed a win percentage of ~85% ? You lose 700 caps of experience and the new guys are all more experienced now than they were in 2016.

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            Kiwi coach Joe Schmidt has said he's unsure over whether or not he'll return to rugby, having vacated his long held Ireland post after this year's World Cup in Japan.
            
            However, promoting his new book Ordinary Joe, Schmidt hinted that his time as a rugby coach could now be done.
            
            "I'm not sure I'll ever go back to coaching," the Kiwi told the Daily Telegraph.
            
            "I just don't know. I want to give myself a bit of distance. I'm emotionally attached. I do take it home with me.
            
            "But it's not like coaching in football where you can potentially accumulate enough to retire permanently. I'll have to go back to work at some stage. I'm just not sure what that will look like."
            

            https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/im-not-sure-ill-ever-go-back-joe-schmidt-throws-coaching-future-into-doubt

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              Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

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                Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

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                @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

                Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

                  Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

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                  @Snowy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

                  Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

                  Audio version?

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                    Heard him interviewed on a Irish podcast, where he joined them to push his book release. Thought it was interesting that in his first teaching job (Palmy Boys, I think) he requested to coach the basketball team but the boss told him to take the rugby team... and he never looked back.

                    The first couple of chapters are autobiographical but from there after it is more of a diary.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Snowy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

                      Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

                      Audio version?

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                      @mariner4life Coles Notes?

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                      • WurzelW Wurzel

                        Heard him interviewed on a Irish podcast, where he joined them to push his book release. Thought it was interesting that in his first teaching job (Palmy Boys, I think) he requested to coach the basketball team but the boss told him to take the rugby team... and he never looked back.

                        The first couple of chapters are autobiographical but from there after it is more of a diary.

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                        @Wurzel He actually did coach bball. My team in fact. I was in 3rd form, 1990, he knew nothing about the game. He didn't let a look in at Senior A level, we had a VERY good coach there, I'd struggle to believe he ever got offered that role.

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117838943/why-tony-brown-put-japan-before-the-all-blacks

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                            The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                            That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

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                              The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                              That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

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                              @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                              That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

                              It would seem JJ, among others, did not get the impression he had a strong chance. He's still young and will have another chance. Back to collecting the yen

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                                https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/hurricanes-coach-john-plumtree-all-blacks-assistant-under-ian-foster

                                Hurricanes coach John Plumtree to be All Blacks' assistant coach under Ian Foster

                                The Hurricanes could be in the market for a new head coach going into the 2020 Super Rugby season, with current boss John Plumtree aligning himself with Ian Foster in the race to take charge of the the All Blacks', 1 NEWS understands.

                                With the search for the next All Blacks coach seemingly down to Steve Hansen's assistant Foster, and Crusaders coach Scott Robertson, any candidates applying for the job have been told by New Zealand Rugby to present themselves as an entire coaching unit.

                                It is understood that Plumtree has aligned himself with Foster's coaching team, and would conceivably take on the role of assistant - should Foster get the nod to step into the head coaching role.

                                Plumtree boasts an impressive CV from his coaching career, having helped the Hurricanes to their maiden Super Rugby title back in 2016 as assistant to Chris Boyd.

                                He then took over in the role of head coach last season, in which the Hurricanes finished second in the New Zealand conference, eliminated at the semi-final stage by eventual winners, the Crusaders,

                                1 NEWS also understands that current defence coach Scott McLeod will remain in the All Blacks' setup regardless of who takes over as head coach. That adds some intrigue to Plumtree's involvement, given defence has been his focus with the Hurricanes.

                                Sources tell 1 NEWS that the first interviews in front of New Zealand Rugby's appointment panel will take place early this week.

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                                  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/hurricanes-coach-john-plumtree-all-blacks-assistant-under-ian-foster

                                  Hurricanes coach John Plumtree to be All Blacks' assistant coach under Ian Foster

                                  The Hurricanes could be in the market for a new head coach going into the 2020 Super Rugby season, with current boss John Plumtree aligning himself with Ian Foster in the race to take charge of the the All Blacks', 1 NEWS understands.

                                  With the search for the next All Blacks coach seemingly down to Steve Hansen's assistant Foster, and Crusaders coach Scott Robertson, any candidates applying for the job have been told by New Zealand Rugby to present themselves as an entire coaching unit.

                                  It is understood that Plumtree has aligned himself with Foster's coaching team, and would conceivably take on the role of assistant - should Foster get the nod to step into the head coaching role.

                                  Plumtree boasts an impressive CV from his coaching career, having helped the Hurricanes to their maiden Super Rugby title back in 2016 as assistant to Chris Boyd.

                                  He then took over in the role of head coach last season, in which the Hurricanes finished second in the New Zealand conference, eliminated at the semi-final stage by eventual winners, the Crusaders,

                                  1 NEWS also understands that current defence coach Scott McLeod will remain in the All Blacks' setup regardless of who takes over as head coach. That adds some intrigue to Plumtree's involvement, given defence has been his focus with the Hurricanes.

                                  Sources tell 1 NEWS that the first interviews in front of New Zealand Rugby's appointment panel will take place early this week.

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                                  @Tim I think it probably goes without saying Fozzie would have bought McLeod with him, but you have to assume Razor approached McLeod as well to see if he would be keen?

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @Tim I think it probably goes without saying Fozzie would have bought McLeod with him, but you have to assume Razor approached McLeod as well to see if he would be keen?

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                                    @taniwharugby Disappointing that the ABs can't do better than him.

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                                      @taniwharugby Disappointing that the ABs can't do better than him.

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                                      @Tim possibly the preferred defence coach for Hansen, Foster and Robertson ... but you don't rate him?

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                                        @Tim possibly the preferred defence coach for Hansen, Foster and Robertson ... but you don't rate him?

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                                        @nzzp When was the AB defence under him particularly good?

                                        Just being a coach for the ABs over the last two years is not impressive.

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12290683

                                          Foster clearly has a foot in the door following his eight years as All Blacks assistant – the final part of which finished with the disappointing third place World Cup in Japan.

                                          But with a team believed to feature John Plumtree, Greg Feek, Scott McLeod and, possibly, Leon MacDonald or David Hill, Foster will arrive for his interview this week well prepared and backed it seems.

                                          Known for his inspirational theming, Robertson must deliver a compelling presentation to sell his alternate big picture vision which delivered three successive titles for the Crusaders.

                                          The Herald understands his pitch will include respected Crusaders forwards coach Jason Ryan and Robertson is believed to have also recruited Hurricanes assistant Jason Holland, a scenario that may leave split loyalties in the Wellington franchise with Hurricanes head coach Plumtree on Foster's team.

                                          MacDonald is somewhat of a wildcard given he worked with Robertson at the Crusaders and has said he is committed to the Blues. He is, however, a sharp, valued mind and it would not surprise if Foster attempts to try and include him.

                                          Hill, the former Chiefs and one test first five-eighth, spent time working on the All Blacks kicking at the World Cup and is committed to joining the Chiefs under Warren Gatland but would no doubt jump at the fast track option to the national team.

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