Cricket: NZ vs England
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Even though we struggled to get wickets for most of the day, apart from that one big partnership, England haven't run away with the game - they're still over 100 runs behind and really only have one proven batsman left and he's already at the crease - I was worried about how quickly they were scoring but it was pleasing to see the NZ attack able to change mode and concentrate on line, length and drying up the runs. On pitches like this, that's just as necessary a skill for test bowling as swing bowling. Wags had some nice moments with his knuckleball and showed he could bowl a good length when it wasn't conducive to his bouncer attack.
I'm hoping that England don't pile on quick runs while losing wickets as I'd rather we batted again with either a 50-80 run lead or by the time England adeclare/are dismissed NZ just has to bat time without pressing to score an excess of runs.
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I just saw on the TV news that Henry was guilty of a schoolboy error when a runout of Burns was likely. NZ didn't help themselves although Raval did show he can field - occasionally.
The forecasted rain should work in NZ's favour as England need a result, not us.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
No, not really.
The players who have opened the batting for NZA in the last 2 years are:
- Jeet Raval
- Will Young
- Hamish Rutherford
- George Worker
- Seiffert (as a second innnings concussion elevation)
Will Young has never opened the batting for any other team except NZA, but he did really well, but he isn't available.
Worker is a white ball player. That's his ceiling IMO.
Rutherford is not a better than Raval, but he may be in better form.
The other option may be Tim Seiffert. Who's role for ND varies between opening the batting, batting middle order and keeping wicket. He's a possibility.
They're not going to debut an opening batsman in Perth.
Longer term; there is a potential Kane/Crowe level of promising opening batsman on the near horizon. But not yet.
Personally, for this season, I'd rather Jeet just reigns it in. He's out of form so lower his ambitions and tough it out aiming for a tough 20 seeing off the new ball. Rather than throwing a hail mary at Rutherford (the only other viable option).
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@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
No, not really.
The players who have opened the batting for NZA in the last 2 years are:
- Jeet Raval
- Will Young
- Hamish Rutherford
- George Worker
- Seiffert (as a second innnings concussion elevation)
Will Young has never opened the batting for any other team except NZA, but he did really well, but he isn't available.
Worker is a white ball player. That's his ceiling IMO.
Rutherford is not a better than Raval, but he may be in better form.
The other option may be Tim Seiffert. Who's role for ND varies between opening the batting, batting middle order and keeping wicket. He's a possibility.
They're not going to debut an opening batsman in Perth.
Longer term; there is a potential Kane/Crowe level of promising opening batsman on the near horizon. But not yet.
Personally, for this season, I'd rather Jeet just reigns it in. He's out of form so lower his ambitions and tough it out aiming for a tough 20 seeing off the new ball. Rather than throwing a hail mary at Rutherford (the only other viable option).
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long, slow grind of a game.
What's your plan if you are England? When do you aim to declare?
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long, slow grind of a game.
What's your plan if you are England? When do you aim to declare?
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
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@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
Does their captain bowl spin (like Williamson) or are they just slow/mediums?
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
Does their captain bowl spin (like Williamson) or are they just slow/mediums?
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@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Still lots of work for us to do, as @Chris-B says. And England are yet to bat on this pitch so we might find that whatever we end up with is not enough.
Bat two days, there is no way you should lose from there. Would take a miracle
@nzzp said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Bat two days, there is no way you should lose from there. Would take a miracle
How are you feeling about that now?
There was a test in NZ quite recently that is starting to look quite similar (unfortunately it is the other way around).
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I only hope it is made to look that flat when we bat again
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Through chance I've seen a lot of Wagner, Southee, and Mitchell bowling in this innings, and only heard Henry and Santner bowling on the radio.
Should that stop me from making a snarky comment about the Henry/Ferguson selection?
I fear it's too late for the reverse jinx to be successful for Henry in this game...
