Cricket: NZ vs England
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I just saw on the TV news that Henry was guilty of a schoolboy error when a runout of Burns was likely. NZ didn't help themselves although Raval did show he can field - occasionally.
The forecasted rain should work in NZ's favour as England need a result, not us.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
No, not really.
The players who have opened the batting for NZA in the last 2 years are:
- Jeet Raval
- Will Young
- Hamish Rutherford
- George Worker
- Seiffert (as a second innnings concussion elevation)
Will Young has never opened the batting for any other team except NZA, but he did really well, but he isn't available.
Worker is a white ball player. That's his ceiling IMO.
Rutherford is not a better than Raval, but he may be in better form.
The other option may be Tim Seiffert. Who's role for ND varies between opening the batting, batting middle order and keeping wicket. He's a possibility.
They're not going to debut an opening batsman in Perth.
Longer term; there is a potential Kane/Crowe level of promising opening batsman on the near horizon. But not yet.
Personally, for this season, I'd rather Jeet just reigns it in. He's out of form so lower his ambitions and tough it out aiming for a tough 20 seeing off the new ball. Rather than throwing a hail mary at Rutherford (the only other viable option).
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@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops Yeah - pretty much both of them got two hands to each catch, so you'd hope to catch both and expect to catch one.
Jeet starting to test the armchair selectors'patience - though in recent times the NZ selectors have proved to generally have more patience, but once you gone you stay gone (Marcellus Wallis).
Re Jeet. Have seen the odd Tweet and comment.
But tell me: do we have anyone better?
No, not really.
The players who have opened the batting for NZA in the last 2 years are:
- Jeet Raval
- Will Young
- Hamish Rutherford
- George Worker
- Seiffert (as a second innnings concussion elevation)
Will Young has never opened the batting for any other team except NZA, but he did really well, but he isn't available.
Worker is a white ball player. That's his ceiling IMO.
Rutherford is not a better than Raval, but he may be in better form.
The other option may be Tim Seiffert. Who's role for ND varies between opening the batting, batting middle order and keeping wicket. He's a possibility.
They're not going to debut an opening batsman in Perth.
Longer term; there is a potential Kane/Crowe level of promising opening batsman on the near horizon. But not yet.
Personally, for this season, I'd rather Jeet just reigns it in. He's out of form so lower his ambitions and tough it out aiming for a tough 20 seeing off the new ball. Rather than throwing a hail mary at Rutherford (the only other viable option).
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long, slow grind of a game.
What's your plan if you are England? When do you aim to declare?
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long, slow grind of a game.
What's your plan if you are England? When do you aim to declare?
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
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@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
Does their captain bowl spin (like Williamson) or are they just slow/mediums?
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@mariner4life comes down to time really. 5 sessions left, need about 3 and a half to bowl us out on that wicket. Basically the inverse of the last test.
Anything over 150 run lead means you can chirp away about scoreboard pressure. So basically after lunch gotta go at 4 plus an over just to move the game on.
No spinner might hurt on the last day if nz are batting to save
Does their captain bowl spin (like Williamson) or are they just slow/mediums?
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@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Still lots of work for us to do, as @Chris-B says. And England are yet to bat on this pitch so we might find that whatever we end up with is not enough.
Bat two days, there is no way you should lose from there. Would take a miracle
@nzzp said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Bat two days, there is no way you should lose from there. Would take a miracle
How are you feeling about that now?
There was a test in NZ quite recently that is starting to look quite similar (unfortunately it is the other way around).
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I only hope it is made to look that flat when we bat again
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Through chance I've seen a lot of Wagner, Southee, and Mitchell bowling in this innings, and only heard Henry and Santner bowling on the radio.
Should that stop me from making a snarky comment about the Henry/Ferguson selection?
I fear it's too late for the reverse jinx to be successful for Henry in this game...
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That weather forecast is going to help us. Eng apparently want a go at us today, as the tail free swinging indicates. Stopping singles right now is really important for us.
So when Eng bowl they need to display lots of energy and chirp and make pressure. 3 for 30 odd and it all changes, so their first hour of bowling has to be relentless.In our substantial favour is that Eng will have to maintain attacking fields so sensible batting will get a steady return of runs. Massively important to run well between wickets in that scenario.
Our restricting them to 2.7 odd an over for most of the innings has been invaluable. Kudos to bowling and fielding plans and all the concentration, execution and awareness that goes with that.
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Through chance I've seen a lot of Wagner, Southee, and Mitchell bowling in this innings, and only heard Henry and Santner bowling on the radio.
Should that stop me from making a snarky comment about the Henry/Ferguson selection?
I fear it's too late for the reverse jinx to be successful for Henry in this game...
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Should that stop me from making a snarky comment about the Henry/Ferguson selection?
No.
