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Cricket: NZ vs England

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  • bayimportsB Offline
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    well, although Jeets didnt get time out there, im very happy the rest of our top order has got time out there. Need as much batting time as possible as prep for the next tour. Pity this series doesn't count for WTC.

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      Looks like there's a couple of hours of rain and they may get back out there late in the afternoon - if anyone can be bothered.

      Good to see Kane and Ross both get some runs, though not quite vintage Kane - in that he had two lives and also got clanged solidly on the helmet by Stokes.

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        The rain is heavy now, and only getting worse later this afternoon. They won't be back on the field.

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          From cricinfo:

          Williamson's hundred was the 299th century for NZ in Tests and now Taylor gets the 300th ton.

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            So Kane and Taylor now have 40 test tons between them. The next best pair would be Crowe and Wright with 17 and 12 respectively for a total of 29. Alternatively if you allow one partner to be repeated you could have Baz and Kane and Taylor and Kane

            Just to reiterate ham special this bunch is, we have three of our top 5 test centuries makers, one more in the top 10, plus Nicholls two tons away from the top 10.

            By the time we get to Ross's final test (my guess at the first of our current lineup to retire), we will probably have 5 of our top 6 in the top 10 for most NZ test centuries.

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              150 test runs for Taylor to move to the top of the ladder for NZ.

              Interesting to see how high (and low) some players are on this list. Southee with more test match runs than Styris, Sinclair, and Jeff Crowe among others.

              http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=1;id=5;type=team

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                150 test runs for Taylor to move to the top of the ladder for NZ.

                Interesting to see how high (and low) some players are on this list. Southee with more test match runs than Styris, Sinclair, and Jeff Crowe among others.

                http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=1;id=5;type=team

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                @Donsteppa

                It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.

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                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                  @Donsteppa

                  It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.

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                  @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  @Donsteppa

                  It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.

                  ah, now it's summer!

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    150 test runs for Taylor to move to the top of the ladder for NZ.

                    Interesting to see how high (and low) some players are on this list. Southee with more test match runs than Styris, Sinclair, and Jeff Crowe among others.

                    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=1;id=5;type=team

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                    @Donsteppa

                    Also, there are 14 guys on that list with a 40+ average and six of them (counting Colin de Grandhomme) are in this side.

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                    • HoorooH Offline
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                      I know this appears to be hindsight but I wasn't even slightly worried that we would lose this match.

                      Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era

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                      • SiamS Siam

                        Poms'll have to roll us in about less than 50 overs tomorrow to win.

                        If they do, all credit to them and we'll have to sing Led Zepps "Nobody's fault but mine" all the way to Perth.

                        Up to our best in Kane and Ross to complete the series win by batting the entire 1st session ( he types jinxingly!)

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                        @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        Poms'll have to roll us in about less than 50 overs tomorrow to win.

                        If they do, all credit to them and we'll have to sing Led Zepps "Nobody's fault but mine" all the way to Perth.

                        Up to our best in Kane and Ross to complete the series win by batting the entire 1st session ( he types jinxingly!)

                        A few more of those jinxes please!

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @Donsteppa

                          It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.

                          ah, now it's summer!

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                          @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @Donsteppa

                          It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.

                          ah, now it's summer!

                          The staples of a kiwi summer; The four B's

                          Beach, beers, BBQ's and bitching about Tim Southee's batting average.

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            I know this appears to be hindsight but I wasn't even slightly worried that we would lose this match.

                            Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era

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                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            I know this appears to be hindsight but I wasn't even slightly worried that we would lose this match.

                            Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era

                            I doubt we'll ever truly rid ourselves of those shudders 😀

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                              Only three innings per match and 21 vs 30 wickets taken?

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                                @Donsteppa

                                Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison :anguished_face:

                                What was McCullum's record as a keeper?

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  I know this appears to be hindsight but I wasn't even slightly worried that we would lose this match.

                                  Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era

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                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era

                                  I hope we return to the days where we won tests in Australia pre-McCullum.

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                                    @Donsteppa

                                    Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison :anguished_face:

                                    What was McCullum's record as a keeper?

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                                    @gt12 said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                    @Donsteppa

                                    Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison :anguished_face:

                                    What was McCullum's record as a keeper?

                                    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/37737.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=1;orderby=default;template=results;type=allround

                                    Pretty good, although the batting is not as good as when he was not keeper.

                                    2803 runs in 52 matches, average 34.18, 5 centuries.

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                                      After the hype before the tour started Archer ended up with 2-209 in the series. The Duke ball and juicy pitches obviously make a big difference.

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                                        @gt12 said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                        @Donsteppa

                                        Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison :anguished_face:

                                        What was McCullum's record as a keeper?

                                        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/37737.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=1;orderby=default;template=results;type=allround

                                        Pretty good, although the batting is not as good as when he was not keeper.

                                        2803 runs in 52 matches, average 34.18, 5 centuries.

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                                        @Godder

                                        Wow, so Watling is heads and shoulders in our top team then. Good on that man.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Godder

                                          Wow, so Watling is heads and shoulders in our top team then. Good on that man.

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                                          @gt12 said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          @Godder

                                          Wow, so Watling is heads and shoulders in our top team then. Good on that man.

                                          The only question you'd have to ask as the selector is whether you want Watling who will dig you out if your top order is in trouble or Baz coming in at 300/5 and torching a bowling attack that's been worn down.

                                          For all normal purposes, Watling is a dream keeper. Almost like clockwork you can rely on him to dig us out of a hole. The only weakness is that he doesn't seem comfortable coming out when we're already in a dominant position. I think it doesn't suit his game and as a result of his selflessness he tries to play a different way to try and progress the game and in doesn't work for him.

                                          For a side with an all time top 6, Baz just slips in because we're much less likely to need a rescue job. For any real selection, Watling is the man for the job.

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