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Cricket: NZ vs Aus

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  • SiamS Siam

    First time in a while I've doubted young Kane. I can forgive his shot, just, with a bit of mental manipulation, but bowling Blundell after lunch had an odour of white flag about it.

    More of a prayer than a plan and 3 overs for a net bowler at a crucial restart is as unfathomable as it is unforgivable.

    It's not the losing of the game ( series) but it's not the way I wanted us to go down.

    Look, it's now clear that you need proper quick bowlers to win in Aus. South Africa a great example, and India with Bumrah, Ishant and Sami all got the job done with splice hitting pace and bounce. Just like in India you need good spin bowlers, so it is with pace to ocker batsmen.

    It was well noted on here that we're good, very good, at building good pressure but lack the killer blow. That's been the story so far where the Aussie batsmen have been so diligent and only Wags can get something other than some lovely play and misses. Their partnership batting was superb.

    We've come to the lucky country with lots of hope and achievements, but not enough raw pace ( or Patel) and countered that with a non bowler, at any form of cricket, opening up after lunch.

    Me thinks Kane's not 100%. Tired? Too much going on?

    Oh well perhaps this is the day (out of the previous 6!) where we finally show some black caps fortitude and an indication that we belong in the company of the top 3 sides in the world. 🤔

    Good luck boys, show your stuff today. We're waiting....

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    @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    First time in a while I've doubted young Kane. I can forgive his shot, just, with a bit of mental manipulation, but bowling Blundell after lunch had an odour of white flag about it.

    More of a prayer than a plan and 3 overs for a net bowler at a crucial restart is as unfathomable as it is unforgivable.

    Blundell must have been something that was discussed at lunch, so Stead has surely got to be partially culpable for that decision. Agree it was a pretty strange choice - sort of like having a decent fourth grade club spinner bowl a few test overs and hope he'll snaffle a wicket. A bit desperate.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      bat for two and a bit days.

      When was the last time we did that? More specifically in Aus?

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      @Snowy I mean across two innings.

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        @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

        bat for two and a bit days.

        When was the last time we did that? More specifically in Aus?

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        @Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

        @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

        bat for two and a bit days.

        When was the last time we did that? More specifically in Aus?

        Rossco's done it before 😏

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Snowy I mean across two innings.

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          @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

          @Snowy I mean across two innings.

          Yeah, realised that. I just don't think that we have ever been particularly good batting for time - with the odd exception. Graetbatch, Rossco, can't think of too many others.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              First time in a while I've doubted young Kane. I can forgive his shot, just, with a bit of mental manipulation, but bowling Blundell after lunch had an odour of white flag about it.

              More of a prayer than a plan and 3 overs for a net bowler at a crucial restart is as unfathomable as it is unforgivable.

              Blundell must have been something that was discussed at lunch, so Stead has surely got to be partially culpable for that decision. Agree it was a pretty strange choice - sort of like having a decent fourth grade club spinner bowl a few test overs and hope he'll snaffle a wicket. A bit desperate.

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              @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              First time in a while I've doubted young Kane. I can forgive his shot, just, with a bit of mental manipulation, but bowling Blundell after lunch had an odour of white flag about it.

              More of a prayer than a plan and 3 overs for a net bowler at a crucial restart is as unfathomable as it is unforgivable.

              Blundell must have been something that was discussed at lunch, so Stead has surely got to be partially culpable for that decision. Agree it was a pretty strange choice - sort of like having a decent fourth grade club spinner bowl a few test overs and hope he'll snaffle a wicket. A bit desperate.

              Stead isn't a patch on Mike Hesson. Never thought I'd say something like that in Hesson's early days. And Kane isn't the strong leader that McCullum was. Having said that, man for man we are simply not good enough. The only player who has enhanced his reputation so far is Wags

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                There goes that plan...

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                  OK yeah we're fucked

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                    Pace and accuracy. Makes a huge difference.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      Pace and accuracy. Makes a huge difference.

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                      Pace and accuracy. Makes a huge difference.

                      The height is what sets these guys apart. Really hard to get forward properly.

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                        Well I thought that I would be free from watching cricket tomorrow, looks like I might have to do something else this afternoon too (if they enforce the follow on).

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                          Kane should get another chance at the crease pretty soon....

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                            46/4 is exactly the kind of scorecard BJ likes to walk out to. It's all part of the plan.

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                              Great to see Smith drop a catch. That's a positive. Also Davey didn't score any runs again. Good test so far overall.

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                                The Black Cap senior players talked well about wanting to play in a MCG Boxing Day test. But other than Wagner, none have fronted when it counted.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  46/4 is exactly the kind of scorecard BJ likes to walk out to. It's all part of the plan.

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                                  @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  It's all part of the plan.

                                  We have a plan?

                                  Clueless might describe things better.

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                                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                    The Black Cap senior players talked well about wanting to play in a MCG Boxing Day test. But other than Wagner, none have fronted when it counted.

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                                    @Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    wanting to play in a MCG Boxing Day test

                                    I think Mr Gregan might say something like "32 more years" after this.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Pace and accuracy. Makes a huge difference.

                                      The height is what sets these guys apart. Really hard to get forward properly.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Pace and accuracy. Makes a huge difference.

                                      The height is what sets these guys apart. Really hard to get forward properly.

                                      Height combined with pace and accuracy. These guys are faster versions of McGrath.

                                      We've never had a really tall genuine fast bowler and the Aussies have at least five of them right now. Billy Stanlake doesn't get a look in.

                                      What I can't understand though is whey'd play three of these guys - surely they should play Siddle for the variation. SURELY... 🙂

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                                        Our batsmen are a fucking embarrassment this series. I'll give Blundell a pass because new and he had bugger all gametime coming into this, but I'm really annoyed at Kane, Ross et al for the limp wristed capitulation. Too many times it's not a screamer delivery or a stunner of a catch, it's just a fucking stupid lollypop to the inner circle. The Black Caps are playing like the village green XI who just met over a few beers and have never played in the big league before.

                                        I feel really sorry for Wagner, who played his guts out trying to restrict the runs and take wickets, and this is what follows. Four top order batsmen who put on 28 runs between them. Our only hope is Latham and Watling staying in for a while. Otherwise, another humiliation heading our way.

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                                          Our batsmen are a fucking embarrassment this series. I'll give Blundell a pass because new and he had bugger all gametime coming into this, but I'm really annoyed at Kane, Ross et al for the limp wristed capitulation. Too many times it's not a screamer delivery or a stunner of a catch, it's just a fucking stupid lollypop to the inner circle. The Black Caps are playing like the village green XI who just met over a few beers and have never played in the big league before.

                                          I feel really sorry for Wagner, who played his guts out trying to restrict the runs and take wickets, and this is what follows. Four top order batsmen who put on 28 runs between them. Our only hope is Latham and Watling staying in for a while. Otherwise, another humiliation heading our way.

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                                          @Mokey we believed our own press on our batting. This attack is the best in the world and our batsmen don’t face this pace with bounce enough. You can’t even draw tests if you don’t make over 300 in an innings. The batting was always going to be the issue in this series.

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