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<p>I also think this is a very smart design, but given the angst over black flags it would never make it (I think the fern on black has enough weight of history and usage to overcome) <img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/NZ_flag_design_Southern_Cross_Horizon_by_Sven_Baker.jpg/120px-NZ_flag_design_Southern_Cross_Horizon_by_Sven_Baker.jpg" alt="120px-NZ_flag_design_Southern_Cross_Hori"></p>
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<p>There are variants of this that very much could work. Aesthetically Fern + Southern Cross just looks like overkill. I think you have to pick one and let it breathe.</p>
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<p>This is the only other one that got a second glance and<strong> I wonder whether a version with blue replacing the grey would have made it more accessible</strong>. (something about the balance of it appeals) <img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/NZ_flag_design_Tukutuku_by_Pax_Zwanikken.svg/120px-NZ_flag_design_Tukutuku_by_Pax_Zwanikken.svg.png" alt="120px-NZ_flag_design_Tukutuku_by_Pax_Zwa"></p>
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<p>You suggest swapping the mini-UK flag in the corner for a mini-French one?</p> -
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<p>You suggest swapping the mini-UK flag in the corner for a mini-French one?</p>
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<p>Not sure why it would be French apart from the same colours, but then those colours are on many flags. You could make an argument that they represent the colours of France, Netherlands and Britian. All countries that explored and settled NZ.</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="548076" data-time="1450351243"><p>
Red Peak came third. That's a good result considering its a very different looking flag<br><br>
I just hope the public vote to keep the current flag as the winner is awful<br><br>
The only fern option is a good black on white.</p></blockquote>
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Actually the red peak campaign was a waste of time energy and money as well as being an unnecessary distraction from the debate . Mos pathetic of all the sad leftards behind the red peak campaign said the flag referendum was a waste of time and money and a distraction.<br><br>
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<p>Red Peak came third. That's a good result considering its a very different looking flag</p>
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<p>I just hope the public vote to keep the current flag <strong>as the winner is awful</strong></p>
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<p>The only fern option is a good black on white.</p>
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<p>Thing is, a lot of people disagree with you, in fact, a lot of people thought your preferred choice was poor, funny old things those personal opinions.</p> -
<p>think there is a link on the previous page.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="547806" data-time="1450214067"><p>
Only in choosing which of the Lockwoods though.<br><br>
I think it was rotated who posted this:<a class="bbc_url" href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/2015_flag_referendum1/results-by-count-report.html">http://electionresults.govt.nz/2015_flag_referendum1/results-by-count-report.html</a><br><br>
Shows that even adding the spoiled votes to red peak couldnt have made a difference.</p></blockquote>
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<p>And....bump.</p>
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<p>Glad to see Dan's on board, but looks like nervous high school kid giving his spiel</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/nzflag/videos/10153951003712002/'>https://www.facebook.com/nzflag/videos/10153951003712002/</a></p> -
<p>did find it somewhat ironic that Andrew Little is on the news claiming some National MPs are against the change of flag, given he all but censured some of his party for speaking out in favour of the TPPA....but hey, that's the wonderful world of politics.</p>
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Seems from the polls that the new one is gaining momentum as more people get used to it.<br><br>
Really hope we change it, living in the UK for the last 10 years you really see how Britain would struggle to give less of a f--k about NZ. That we still have their flag on our flag winds me up.<br><br>
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Will need at least a 10% swing in the next couple of weeks to have any chance. <br><br>
When I see some of the arguments or comments from the anti-change group I remember some of the things I really disliked about NZ. <br><br>
It's going to be embarrassing explaining to work colleagues why we kept a colonial relic. <br><br>
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<p>I am going to vote to change it. Both flags are displaying outside my work and it looks 10,000 times better then our current one.</p>
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<p>Is funny listening to those not wanting a change bitching about DC and whoever else dares to speak positively about the change as being puppets of John Key...</p>
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Is funny listening to those not wanting a change bitching about DC and whoever else dares to speak positively about the change as being puppets of John Key...</p></blockquote>
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They should keep it up, history suggests that leftards behaving this pathetically usually pushes people towards Key/national .<br><br>
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Is funny listening to those not wanting a change bitching about DC and whoever else dares to speak positively about the change as being puppets of John Key...</p></blockquote><br>
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<p>I started out pretty neutral, but now I am disappointed that the new flag looks like not getting over the line.</p>
<p>I have yet to hear one good reason why our flag should have another countries flag on it. </p>
<p>I hear a lot of people supporting the new flag.. yet the polls show the complete opposite, sadly I believe the polls.</p>
