Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="548165" data-time="1450394070"><p>I'm doing this off a tablet so shit I can do normally I can't on here. Will have another go when I'm on a PC. <br><br>
Virg, yep read that scene like a book but I thought said characters whiny nature was worse than Annie and Luke to be honest.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Tickets booked for tomorrow night for me and TR Jnr</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="548182" data-time="1450399096"><p>Tickets booked for tomorrow night for me and TR Jnr</p></blockquote>
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What's the story with the rating. Stupid question but I can take my 5 and 7 year old provided I am with them right ? ( FML.....guess I'll have to sit through it again ) -
<p>no idea...the dude didn't even ask how old my kid was when I bought the tickets</p>
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Better than A Phantom Menace is the best I can say about that.<br><br>
Poo.<br><br>
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<p>Better than A Phantom Menace is the best I can say about that.<br><br>
Poo.<br><br>
Interesting that something with the initials J J has fucked up a Star Wars film once again.</p>
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I can only assume we watched completely different versions of Ep 7.</p></blockquote>
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No we just have different tastes. Incredibly enough that happens sometimes Nepia. My 10 year old was severely pissed off with the film and I don't blame him.<br><br>
[spoiler] Han farking Solo is killed by his fucking son who happens to be Kylo Ren. And the supposed badass Kylo Renn is actually a weird-looking loser who gets his arse kicked by a girl who just found out she has Jedi powers. Oh yeah, wtf was that Snork guy? They nicked that from GOTG.<br><br>
Love the original plot too. Secret plans hidden in droid. Teenager on desert planet with unknown past makes contact with said droid. And the secret awesome weapon that can wipe out planets. Where have I seen that before? Guys on ground taking out shields. Pilots fly through trench to blow it up. Nothing recycled there. All fresh and original.<br><br>
The acting was very good. Liked Ray, Finn and especially Po. Plenty of potential there. Effects and costumes top notch. But plot was shit, Ren was shit, and Han Solo getting wacked was shit. But if you enjoyed it then congratulations. [/spoiler] -
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<p>No we just have different tastes. Incredibly enough that happens sometimes Nepia. My 10 year old was severely pissed off with the film and I don't blame him.<br><br>
[spoiler] Han farking Solo is killed by his fucking son who happens to be Kylo Ren. And the supposed badass Kylo Renn is actually a weird-looking loser who gets his arse kicked by a girl who just found out she has Jedi powers. Oh yeah, wtf was that Snork guy? They nicked that from GOTG.<br><br>
Love the original plot too. Secret plans hidden in droid. Teenager on desert planet with unknown past makes contact with said droid. And the secret awesome weapon that can wipe out planets. Where have I seen that before? Guys on ground taking out shields. Pilots fly through trench to blow it up. Nothing recycled there. All fresh and original.<br><br>
The acting was very good. Liked Ray, Finn and especially Po. Plenty of potential there. Effects and costumes top notch. But plot was shit, Ren was shit, and Han Solo getting wacked was shit. But if you enjoyed it then congratulations. [/spoiler]</p>
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<p>[spoiler] I'm pretty sure that the plot was 100% deliberate and I was fine with it - the series started with a film cobbled together from other movies and serials.</p>
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<p>Better a recycled plot done well than one that is incomprehensible (Phantom Menace) .... IMHO. [/spoiler]</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="548270" data-time="1450484690"><p>I genuinely agree with some of the flaws that the Schnitz brings up but again. It's fucken Star Wars, rules that apply to other franchises don't actually apply here.</p></blockquote>I enjoyed it immensely. Made me feel like 5 again seeing a new hope. Acting was good, it looked great, the falcon was awesome! When does SW8 come out?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="548270" data-time="1450484690"><p>
I genuinely agree with some of the flaws that the Schnitz brings up but again. It's fucken Star Wars, rules that apply to other franchises don't actually apply here.</p></blockquote>
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[spoiler] Like I said, acting, effects, sets were top notch. But there were Imho too many negatives. Kylo Renn was a bloody emo. He's supposed to be the next Darth Vader but had his arse handed to him by a storm trooper and a desert scavenger chick half his size (which is nothing because Darth Emo is built like a stick insect). My son had the figure before the film and now he wants to saw it in half. He thought he had Darth Vader on roids but now calls him "A weird looking boy just out of puberty who killed his dad, Han Solo."<br><br>
Killing off Han was just lazy. Trying to copy GoT for shock value perhaps? And who the furk is this Snork dude and wtf was that dwarf creature who had Luke's lightsaber? And were Corescant and the Senate destroyed? It wasn't entirely clear about that, but that's pretty farking weak if true.<br><br>
Really liked the Poe character (even if the name sux) and some scenes were the best ever seen in a Star Wars film. But for the reasons above and the lazy plot, I was really quite disappointed. Hopefully number 2 isn't a ripoff of Empire with Luke playing the part of Yoda. <br><br>
Oh yeah, and one last thing. Has Lea not developed any force powers in the past 32 years? That's a bit crap and lazy. Little Ray beat up a Sith by just thinking about the force. <br><br>
Fook that was so uber-nerd I should beat myself up
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<p>[spoiler] Like I said, acting, effects, sets were top notch. But there were Imho too many negatives. Kylo Renn was a bloody emo. He's supposed to be the next Darth Vader but had his arse handed to him by a storm trooper and a desert scavenger chick half his size (which is nothing because Darth Emo is built like a stick insect). My son had the figure before the film and now he wants to saw it in half. He thought he had Darth Vader on roids but now calls him "A weird looking boy just out of puberty who killed his dad, Han Solo."<br><br>
Killing off Han was just lazy. Trying to copy GoT for shock value perhaps? And who the furk is this Snork dude and wtf was that dwarf creature who had Luke's lightsaber? And were Corescant and the Senate destroyed? It wasn't entirely clear about that, but that's pretty farking weak if true.<br><br>
Really liked the Poe character (even if the name sux) and some scenes were the best ever seen in a Star Wars film. But for the reasons above and the lazy plot, I was really quite disappointed. Hopefully number 2 isn't a ripoff of Empire with Luke playing the part of Yoda.<br><br>
Oh yeah, and one last thing. Has Lea not developed any force powers in the past 32 years? That's a bit crap and lazy. Little Ray beat up a Sith by just thinking about the force.<br><br>
Fook that was so uber-nerd I should beat myself up [/spoiler]</p>
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<p>Who said Ren is the next Vader? Why do we assume the evil villain has to be cold and all set. Why cant he be living a conflicting life caught between the Dark side and good side? ( At least hes not Ani who just whined and whined in the prequels)</p>
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<p>Why was killing off Han lazy? Ford has been dying to be killed since Empire Strikes Back!</p>
<p>Also its the first movie in a new trilogy, i think its supposed to leave a whole lot of unanswered questions, otherwise why bother watching Eps 8 & 9. (something i assume you wont be bothering to do)</p> -
Spoilers you retard!!!!!!
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[spoiler]<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="548305" data-time="1450503282"><p>
Who said Ren is the next Vader? Why do we assume the evil villain has to be cold and all set. Why cant he be living a conflicting life caught between the Dark side and good side? ( At least hes not Ani who just whined and whined in the prequels)<br><br>
Why was killing off Han lazy? Ford has been dying to be killed since Empire Strikes Back!<br>
Also its the first movie in a new trilogy, i think its supposed to leave a whole lot of unanswered questions, otherwise why bother watching Eps 8 & 9. (something i assume you wont be bothering to do)</p></blockquote>
He's a SW villain and a Sith. He follows in the footsteps of Vader, Sidious, Tyrannous and Maul. He's the son of HS and PL and Vader's grandson. Yet he looks like Marilyn Manson and got his arse kicked by Keira Knightly's little sister. Basically he's shit. What kid would want that figure? It's the equivalent of Lea beating up on Darth Vader in E4. Yeah that would have been awesome.<br><br>
Killing off a major character like that is just lazy. It's what every show, movie, book does when they run out of ideas. It was a crap scene as well. As soon as Darth Emo just happened to wander onto that railess bridge you knew Han was a dead man. And who gives a shit if Ford wanted him to die. If that was his condition for doing the film then leave him out. It's not like his inclusion would make any difference at the box office.<br><br>
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Rancid, Ren hasn't finished his training and was injured twice before his fight with Rey. <br><br>
The scene on the bridge was his big test to turn to the dark side. I expect we won't see both Rey and Ren at the peak of their powers until Episode 9. <br><br>
You are assuming he's a Sith as well, there are only two of those but we clearly see several knights of Ren. <br><br>
I think it all fits with the try hard nature of the First Order. They are desperate to be the Empire, but not quite. Same with Ren, desperate to be like Vader but not quite. <br><br>
And recycling the plot is very Star Wars, same criticisms were levelled at Return of the Jedi. <br><br>
This film had a lot of work to do, its main job was to make you forget about the shitty prequels and introduce the new characters. <br><br>
Succeeded widely at that. <br><br>
That final scene was wonderful, and certainly not a repeat of anything I've seen in Star Wars. <br><br>
The Starkiller base was a mcguffin, the whole movie was about finding Luke.
