2020 All Blacks Squad
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@Chris-B should have had Havili given he's been there previously.
I also agree with @Crazy-Horse about Douglas. Am a fan, but think good Super player may be his ceiling.
@booboo Yeah - I wouldn't put a lot of money on Whetu, but he's probably the best Crusaders loosie prospect - though Ethan Roots seems to have some wraps (or raps?) on him. I was very impressed with Sanders when I first saw him for the U20s (or NZ schools?), but injury has hampered him - and will hamper Blackadder this season.
I really hope Fozzie puts some thought into incorporating some size into his backline this year. Laumape will help with that, but people like Mataele and Faingaanuku (even though they're raw) could as well.
I think we missed having the power of people like Nonu and Big Jules in last year's team.
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@booboo Have you forgotten R Ioane among the midfielders, or was that intentional?
If you list McKenzie among the 10s and 15s, you should do the same with B Barrett IMO.
Pedant alert: initials help if there are multiple players with the same last name.
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@booboo Yeah - I wouldn't put a lot of money on Whetu, but he's probably the best Crusaders loosie prospect - though Ethan Roots seems to have some wraps (or raps?) on him. I was very impressed with Sanders when I first saw him for the U20s (or NZ schools?), but injury has hampered him - and will hamper Blackadder this season.
I really hope Fozzie puts some thought into incorporating some size into his backline this year. Laumape will help with that, but people like Mataele and Faingaanuku (even though they're raw) could as well.
I think we missed having the power of people like Nonu and Big Jules in last year's team.
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@booboo Yeah - I wouldn't put a lot of money on Whetu, but he's probably the best Crusaders loosie prospect - though Ethan Roots seems to have some wraps (or raps?) on him. I was very impressed with Sanders when I first saw him for the U20s (or NZ schools?), but injury has hampered him - and will hamper Blackadder this season.
I really hope Fozzie puts some thought into incorporating some size into his backline this year. Laumape will help with that, but people like Mataele and Faingaanuku (even though they're raw) could as well.
I think we missed having the power of people like Nonu and Big Jules in last year's team.
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The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
Yes, he debuted for them last year (IIRC Flanders hasn't yet).
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@booboo Have you forgotten R Ioane among the midfielders, or was that intentional?
If you list McKenzie among the 10s and 15s, you should do the same with B Barrett IMO.
Pedant alert: initials help if there are multiple players with the same last name.
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@booboo Have you forgotten R Ioane among the midfielders, or was that intentional?
Forgot, but really not one of my preferred options. But will add.
If you list McKenzie among the 10s and 15s, you should do the same with B Barrett IMO.
True.
Pedant alert: initials help if there are multiple players with the same last name.
Fair enough.
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@Chris-B should have had Havili given he's been there previously.
I also agree with @Crazy-Horse about Douglas. Am a fan, but think good Super player may be his ceiling.
@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Chris-B should have had Havili given he's been there previously.
I also agree with @Crazy-Horse about Douglas. Am a fan, but think good Super player may be his ceiling.
Yeah, people forget that no team wanted him for Super rugby and he made the Crusaders initially due to injury. He also had a time share role with Taufua so it will be interesting to see how he goes for longer than 50-60 minutes regularly.
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@booboo Another one: Tyrel Lomax.
Good point. Missed him ...
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Update again
Moody, Moli*, Ta'avao*, Tu'inukuafe, Lidenmuth?,
Alaalatoa?,Coles, Taylor, Coltman, Harris, A Aumua, Taukei'aho?, Riccitelli?, Makalio?,
Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao*, Moli*, Lomax, Fidow?,
S Barrett, Tuipolotu, Parkinson, Walker-Leaware?, McWhannel?,
Romano?, Strange?Cane, A Savea, Jacobsen, Frizell, A Ioane, Papalii, Evans, Fifita, Robinson?, Flanders?, Kirifi?, Douglas?,
A Smith, Perenara, Weber, TT Tahuriorangi, Drummond, Enari?, Hall?, Fakatava?,
B Barrett*, Mo'unga, J Ioane, D McKenzie*, Cruden?, Perofeta?, Falcon?, Plummer?, Cameron?,
A Lienert-Brown, Goodhue, Laumape, Ennor, Tupaea?, Aso?, Proctor?, Nankiville?, R Ioane, Toala?,
Bridge, Reece, R Ioane, Jordan*, Alaimalo?, Clarke?, Nareki?, Mataele?, Faingaanuku?
B Smith, J Barrett, B Barrett*, Mckenzie*, Jordan*, Havili
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Update again
Moody, Moli*, Ta'avao*, Tu'inukuafe, Lidenmuth?,
Alaalatoa?,Coles, Taylor, Coltman, Harris, A Aumua, Taukei'aho?, Riccitelli?, Makalio?,
Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao*, Moli*, Lomax, Fidow?,
S Barrett, Tuipolotu, Parkinson, Walker-Leaware?, McWhannel?,
Romano?, Strange?Cane, A Savea, Jacobsen, Frizell, A Ioane, Papalii, Evans, Fifita, Robinson?, Flanders?, Kirifi?, Douglas?,
A Smith, Perenara, Weber, TT Tahuriorangi, Drummond, Enari?, Hall?, Fakatava?,
B Barrett*, Mo'unga, J Ioane, D McKenzie*, Cruden?, Perofeta?, Falcon?, Plummer?, Cameron?,
A Lienert-Brown, Goodhue, Laumape, Ennor, Tupaea?, Aso?, Proctor?, Nankiville?, R Ioane, Toala?,
Bridge, Reece, R Ioane, Jordan*, Alaimalo?, Clarke?, Nareki?, Mataele?, Faingaanuku?
B Smith, J Barrett, B Barrett*, Mckenzie*, Jordan*, Havili
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@booboo I thought Bender had gone to Pau? Is he available through some contract deal i.e coming back for a while?
@Snowy I'm surprised to see his name there, too. I think his ABs days are up, regardless. Time for the next generation. Plenty of good wings/fullbacks.
I also don't think Cruden - although eligible - will play for the ABs again, unless both BB and RM are injured.
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@booboo I thought Bender had gone to Pau? Is he available through some contract deal i.e coming back for a while?
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
Sky Sport is reading the Fern. They just posted this:
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Teariki Ben-Nicholas ? He was the best Nr.8 of the Mitre 10 Cup. It will be interesting what can he do at a higher level. Reminds me of Ron Cribb.
@cgrant Whether he was the best no. 8 in M10 Cup is debatable, and Mikaele-Tu'u looked better in the preseason games. TBN frequently looked indecisive and made a couple of costly mistakes (one resulting in a Crusaders try). IMO it's way too soon to think of him in terms of ABs, but it will definitely be interesting to see how he'll go at SR level.
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Teariki Ben-Nicholas ? He was the best Nr.8 of the Mitre 10 Cup. It will be interesting what can he do at a higher level. Reminds me of Ron Cribb.
