Possible All Blacks 2020
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@Duluth said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.
The coach is Foster. If it's even a slightly close call I think he'll go for a Waikato player
quality ... provincial bias coming out clearly
@nzzp said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
quality ... provincial bias coming out clearly
He has history
There's strong arguments for McKenzie and Jacobson being in the starting xv. I just can't see Foster going against those guys in a marginal call
What people want to be the starting fullback/whatever is different than predicting what Foster will select
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FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
I'm not a massive DMac fan but I do see his value as an impact bench player. In saying that he's going to have some competition from Havili'i in a similar role. Outside back cover in general will be quite congested.
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FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
I'm not a massive DMac fan but I do see his value as an impact bench player. In saying that he's going to have some competition from Havili'i in a similar role. Outside back cover in general will be quite congested.
@shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
Anyone who can knock over 63 m penalties shuold be somewhere in the squad. Just opens up so much of the field to score points in
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@shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
Anyone who can knock over 63 m penalties shuold be somewhere in the squad. Just opens up so much of the field to score points in
@nzzp said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
Anyone who can knock over 63 m penalties shuold be somewhere in the squad. Just opens up so much of the field to score points in
He's been big for the Canes so far. I did not expect us to do anything this season and we're 2 from 3
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@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Crusaders:
- Mo'unga is irreplaceable. He goes down long term the Crusaders are poked. Havili was ok last week, but he isn't a championship winning 10, and we can all see Cameron is not up to it yet.
The Crusaders have only lost three times during Razor's tenure when Mo'unga has played.
To the Canes and to the B&I Lions in 2017.
And to the Chiefs in the Fiji heat last year.
Ah yes the heat. That the Chiefs didn't play in that evening.
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Crusaders:
- Mo'unga is irreplaceable. He goes down long term the Crusaders are poked. Havili was ok last week, but he isn't a championship winning 10, and we can all see Cameron is not up to it yet.
The Crusaders have only lost three times during Razor's tenure when Mo'unga has played.
To the Canes and to the B&I Lions in 2017.
And to the Chiefs in the Fiji heat last year.
Ah yes the heat. That the Chiefs didn't play in that evening.
Yes - the conditions are never better suited to one team than another.
Mud, wind, high veldt - always the same for both teams.
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FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.
I'm not a massive DMac fan but I do see his value as an impact bench player. In saying that he's going to have some competition from Havili'i in a similar role. Outside back cover in general will be quite congested.
@shark lol did J Barrett cost you a multi or something? From where I'm sitting he has been the form 15 in the competition so far alongside DMac and Havili. Excellent under the high ball, physical in contact and can hoof the ball a mile, add to the fact he is nearly 100% off the boot.
Yes, he makes the odd brain explosion, however, I put that down to age more than anything else.
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Based on season so far (but bound to change) :
- Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. S. Barrett 5. Tuipulotu 6. Bolshier 7. Cane (c) 8. Sotutu 9. A. Smith 10. R. Mo'unga 11. Reece 12. Goodhue 13. ALB 14. McKenzie. 15. J. Barrett 16 Taylor 17. Moli 18. Lomax 19. Walker- Leawere 20. Papali'i 21.Weber 22. B. Barrett 23. Laumape
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@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Crusaders:
- Mo'unga is irreplaceable. He goes down long term the Crusaders are poked. Havili was ok last week, but he isn't a championship winning 10, and we can all see Cameron is not up to it yet.
The Crusaders have only lost three times during Razor's tenure when Mo'unga has played.
To the Canes and to the B&I Lions in 2017.
And to the Chiefs in the Fiji heat last year.
The Crusaders are one thing, the All Blacks another one. RM has yet to show that he is a world class 1st 5/8. He has been playing beyond expectations for the ABs so far.
@cgrant said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Crusaders:
- Mo'unga is irreplaceable. He goes down long term the Crusaders are poked. Havili was ok last week, but he isn't a championship winning 10, and we can all see Cameron is not up to it yet.
The Crusaders have only lost three times during Razor's tenure when Mo'unga has played.
To the Canes and to the B&I Lions in 2017.
And to the Chiefs in the Fiji heat last year.
The Crusaders are one thing, the All Blacks another one. RM has yet to show that he is a world class 1st 5/8. He has been playing beyond expectations for the ABs so far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12252782
Hansen thinks he is.
I agree with Hansen.
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Based on season so far (but bound to change) :
- Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. S. Barrett 5. Tuipulotu 6. Bolshier 7. Cane (c) 8. Sotutu 9. A. Smith 10. R. Mo'unga 11. Reece 12. Goodhue 13. ALB 14. McKenzie. 15. J. Barrett 16 Taylor 17. Moli 18. Lomax 19. Walker- Leawere 20. Papali'i 21.Weber 22. B. Barrett 23. Laumape
@sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Based on season so far (but bound to change) :
- Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. S. Barrett 5. Tuipulotu 6. Bolshier 7. Cane (c) 8. Sotutu 9. A. Smith 10. R. Mo'unga 11. Reece 12. Goodhue 13. ALB 14. McKenzie. 15. J. Barrett 16 Taylor 17. Moli 18. Lomax 19. Walker- Leawere 20. Papali'i 21.Weber 22. B. Barrett 23. Laumape
Beaudy gets a shot but not Sam Whitelock despte no SR this season?
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@sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Based on season so far (but bound to change) :
- Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. S. Barrett 5. Tuipulotu 6. Bolshier 7. Cane (c) 8. Sotutu 9. A. Smith 10. R. Mo'unga 11. Reece 12. Goodhue 13. ALB 14. McKenzie. 15. J. Barrett 16 Taylor 17. Moli 18. Lomax 19. Walker- Leawere 20. Papali'i 21.Weber 22. B. Barrett 23. Laumape
Beaudy gets a shot but not Sam Whitelock despte no SR this season?
@Machpants Is Sam W eligible for the Wales and Scotland games? Think we will see him and BB in the squad but not initially as starters.
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@Machpants Is Sam W eligible for the Wales and Scotland games? Think we will see him and BB in the squad but not initially as starters.
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Based on season so far (but bound to change) :
- Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. S. Barrett 5. Tuipulotu 6. Bolshier 7. Cane (c) 8. Sotutu 9. A. Smith 10. R. Mo'unga 11. Reece 12. Goodhue 13. ALB 14. McKenzie. 15. J. Barrett 16 Taylor 17. Moli 18. Lomax 19. Walker- Leawere 20. Papali'i 21.Weber 22. B. Barrett 23. Laumape
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@Machpants Is Sam W eligible for the Wales and Scotland games? Think we will see him and BB in the squad but not initially as starters.
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I'm thinking Bosh to initially take Todd's backup place in the squad.
What we desperately missed was hard tackling/clearing players in 6 and 8. Read had lost his edge and we didn't have a thumping 6.
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Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in. -
Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.@Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.
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@Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.
@Nepia said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.
Trouble with Coles is that if the game, or his form, isn't going well he reverts to being a liability discipline wise. He was bloody lucky on the weekend to stay on the field after that cheap shot shoulder into a player on the ground. If he had connected with the head (which was quite possible as he had no control) he would have seen red.
He has lost the acceleration that made him so dangerous if a break came his way and I don't see him lasting the full cycle anyway.
