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    @Mokey makes you wonder about his other charges, if they are sexual in nature as well, and possibly with similar scenario but didnt end in death...

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    Hillary Flynn, Keith Cousins, Elizabeth Naismith Picciani  /  Tech

    Tinder Lets Known Sex Offenders Use the App. It’s Not the Only One.

    Tinder Lets Known Sex Offenders Use the App. It’s Not the Only One.

    Match Group, which owns most major online dating services, screens for sexual predators on Match — but not on Tinder, OkCupid, or Plenty of Fish. A spokesperson said, “There are definitely registered sex offenders on our free products.”

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    Life with 17 years non-parole:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/118889606/grace-millane-murder-british-backpackers-killer-to-be-sentenced

    Good riddance.

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    He'll stick around like a bad smell. Pretty sure there will be appeals for appeals etc etc if not just an appeal on sentence.
    His lawyer made it clear today that he still proclaims innocence.

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    Why does he still have name suppression? He must be on trial with other charges

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    @Crucial said in Grace Millane:

    He'll stick around like a bad smell. Pretty sure there will be appeals for appeals etc etc if not just an appeal on sentence.
    His lawyer made it clear today that he still proclaims innocence.

    I'm sure his fellow inmates will work out who he is

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    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    Why does he still have name suppression? He must be on trial with other charges

    Seems likely, but the reasons for name suppression are also suppressed, so just speculation really.

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    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    Why does he still have name suppression? He must be on trial with other charges

    Seems likely, but the reasons for name suppression are also suppressed, so just speculation really.

    I see Evening Standard has published his name, in a headline no less. Quite the dick move.

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    His name is unimportant.

    I feel incredibly sorry for the Millane family. 17 years seems a ridiculously short stint for a prolonged attack on a stranger's neck that left them dead, taking lewd photos with her corpse, dumping her remains in a shallow grave and then abusing her and her family throughout the trial.

    It seems really unfair that he gets to live peacefully in his middle age somewhere when he took Grace's life away from her and her family.

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    @sparky hopefully they will see him as the threat he is and refuse him parole for as long as possible

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    Yeah, 20-30 years is likely, although life parole means he can be pulled back inside for anything until he dies.

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    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    Yeah, 20-30 years is likely, although life parole means he can be pulled back inside for anything until he dies.

    The guy is a bad seed, you can redeem a guy like that. Room him with the pizza guy killer

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    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    Yeah, 20-30 years is likely, although life parole means he can be pulled back inside for anything until he dies.

    The guy is a bad seed, you can redeem a guy like that. Room him with the pizza guy killer

    Agree that it's unlikely, but 30 years is a long time

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    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    Yeah, 20-30 years is likely, although life parole means he can be pulled back inside for anything until he dies.

    The guy is a bad seed, you can redeem a guy like that. Room him with the pizza guy killer

    Agree that it's unlikely, but 30 years is a long time

    He's in his late 20s right? If he gets out aged late 50s he will be more than physically capable of doing it again. Perishing on the inside would be preferable to spare another family the pain and suffering the Millanes have suffered

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    This is an instance where the criminal justice system has performed very satisfactorily. He's locked in a cage for well long enough and on a short leash thereafter.

    Save the criticisms or tinkering for when the system grossly misrepresents a criminal travesty.

    Murders will always happen, dealing with them consistently is the important part

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    @Siam the only bit which is bad was the character assassination of the victim that was eagerly relayed to the public by the media. I don't see why the public need to know the ins and outs of her sexual preferences for a start

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    Apart from the horrific murder, I think all the women he harassed, threatened, and manhandled will sleep better knowing that sack of shit is locked away. Ditto all the others he lied to and ripped off.

    I'm really pleased with the sentence. It does actually feel like justice.

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    I've always wondered why we need to know the gory details of how someone commits murder and how he or she goes about disposing of the body. I don't believe it's about journalism, it's blatant sensationalism. There are some things we just don't need to know. Less is more

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    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    @canefan said in Grace Millane:

    @Godder said in Grace Millane:

    Yeah, 20-30 years is likely, although life parole means he can be pulled back inside for anything until he dies.

    The guy is a bad seed, you can redeem a guy like that. Room him with the pizza guy killer

    Agree that it's unlikely, but 30 years is a long time

    He's in his late 20s right? If he gets out aged late 50s he will be more than physically capable of doing it again. Perishing on the inside would be preferable to spare another family the pain and suffering the Millanes have suffered

    The parole system is quite conservative, for all the complaints about it - if the psych reports etc show any risk, he won't be going anywhere.

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    @canefan the lurid has always fascinated people. The reality is that those things physically happened. I don't think we can change that.

    We can however change our social judgement of those facts., e.g. she was into some harmless kink. The appropriate judgement is, " meh, so what, she wasn't hurting anyone. She can still be a great person."

    It's the puritan/Victorian era judgement by some that diminish her character on an outdated standard that fucks me off.

    In other words, fuck the media and the puritans that seek to focus on the trivial. We must confront facts, not hide them for fear of judgement

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